(December 7, 2024 at 2:27 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:I agree your rhetoric is blunt, but then facile rhetoric generally is, and you've leaped from that to a straw man. A country that embraces endemic private gun ownership, will likely see a corresponding increase in gun crime and violence. Embarking private gun ownership is a moral choice, geddit?(December 6, 2024 at 9:09 pm)Sheldon Wrote: Empty rhetoric...A society that values human life does not cheer when a man is gunned down in the streets - that is a direct result of lack of morals, the rhetoric could not be more blunt.
Quote:Regardless of the moral cost, yes I get it, you don't seem to, and no it doesn't run me anyway, I don't live in the US. Nor would I choose to, though I am sure there are some lovely places to live.Quote:A country duped into believing endemic private gun ownership is not just an alienable right, but essential to personal safety, is bound to suffer the consequences.
Back to back world war champions, knocked out the Soviet Union, has the Russian military hampered by sending 5% of it's 50 year old equipment to Ukraine, world leading economy, world leading social power, the ability to defend myself on my property instead of waiting 45 minutes to an hour and a half for police to reach me... I know it rubs the rest of the world wrong, but we will keep doing what got us here, thanks.
Quote:The only gun problem America has is in inner cities, with cartel members, and with those individuals who commit suicide - which means it's not a gun problem but a social problem.What a spectacularly stupid lie, but even were this true, it wouldn't alter the fact that the massive amount of privately own guns is driving some gruesome corresponding statistics on gun violence and deaths. This remind of the failed religious programme of trying to convince young people not to have sex, rather than educating them about how to be safe, it also had corresponding catastrophic results.
