RE: Ben Shapiro vs Neil deGrasse Tyson: The WAR Over Transgender Issues
January 27, 2025 at 8:12 pm
(This post was last modified: January 27, 2025 at 8:19 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 27, 2025 at 7:56 pm)Sheldon Wrote: Yes, the earth is not flat, is not just a subjective opinion, as it rests on an amount of objectively verifiable evidence, that would make denial of it unreasonable. I tend to think of objectivity as a scale, the more objective the evidence, and the more objective evidence we have the more reliable the conclusions it supports.Excellent. It's those types of assertions which metaethical objectivists would refer to as "valid" moral assertions. They accurately report the thing they purport to report.
Quote:1. I don't see how this is a moral assertion? All sex can spread disease, that's what the S stands for in the acronym. One can reduce risk of course, avoiding promiscuity using protection like condoms etc..It's a moral assertion because it makes the claim that some x is bad.
It's an objectivist moral assertion because it purports to report a fact of the matter of homosexual sex.
It's incorrect because, as you note, it is not the sex's homosexualness that transmits disease. If that's the bad making property, then a more accurate, but perhaps still meaningfully untrue claim would be "unprotected sex is bad."
Quote:2. I am dubious this is true, as it seems like a slippery slope fallacy to me.It's objectively true but not an objectivist objection. It is the claim that homosexual sex is bad because of some fact about our relativist norms, rather than homosexual sex.
Quote:3. I don't believe any deity or deities exist, so again I find the claim dubious, but if a deity makes it clear to me that it abhors gay people, I would view that as a subjective claim, and an immoral one, but of course my objections would rest on my own subjective opinions ultimately.Another objectively true statement but not an objectivist objection. It is the claim that homosexual sex is bad because some subject..god in this case, is against it.
Quote:4. By this rationale garden peas would be immoral for me.Correct...or, that immoral was garden peas. Where's the clownface emoji?
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