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A Philosophy of War and Conflict
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RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict
(August 5, 2026 at 8:30 am)Leonardo17 Wrote:  
You may have heard about the migration crisis that started in the Spanish enclave of Ceuta in Morocco and all European right wing parties calling for Spain to be suspended from the Schengen Zone....
...which was monumentally stupid...and irrelevant. Do you know why?


(August 5, 2026 at 8:30 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: But people are still able to add and extract and omit meanings in translations, distort historical accounts about the life of the prophet so that what is a purely spiritual self-helping endeavor is turned into a tool of creating flocks of brainless people that are easily manipulated and the core ideology is so distorted that the religion of peace (!) kills some 5000 people who did nothing to anybody in the 9/11 attacks.
Please tell us more about the core ideology of this religion of peace, the true core ideology!
 

(August 5, 2026 at 8:30 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: My point of view on this is this: I don’t go into the intellectual debate with anyone anymore. That’s a really exhausting and endless type of endeavor (if you ask me)
Its because you are by and large ignorant about the topics you like to discuss here, and unfortunately there is no "nice" way to tell you so. You would be well advised to listen to what people tell you when they put your silly and sometimes contradictory (see Boru) beliefs to the test, instead of going on full defense mode and wearing "spirituality" as a shiled in front of you, shielding your views from criticism.


(August 5, 2026 at 8:30 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: Instead I focus on the spiritual. Being into these things since decades I can more or less tell the difference between what comes from what I call “our Higher Self” and what come from the Ego.
Word salad, and we already have shown you, didnt we?
As long as you dont realize that your "spiritual" nonsense is just that, you wont ever lean/improve. Admitting to doing this for decades, just emphasizes the severity of your "spiritual problem" and the urgency to address it.
Again: No nice way to tell you, but i am trying to do you the favour here. Please take the opportunity.

(August 5, 2026 at 8:30 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: Pope Francis’s message above is a very spiritual message. He probably knows (or knew) that Europe cannot simply open it’s border to whoever has it hard in his/her country or origin.
Which is completely irrelevant to tens of thousands coming to Ceuta, because it is not part of the Schengen Area. There never was a question as of "do or dont we let those people enter Mainland Spain/EU", since there was no legal base to do so.

(August 5, 2026 at 8:30 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: Israel too is a very “religious” project if you ask any of those hardliner Jewish nationalists and Jewish supremacists. I personally do not see any difference between them and/or the IRI and/or the political Islamists that are present inside all Muslim majority countries.
One of the few things you actually got right, i grant you that.
 
(August 5, 2026 at 8:30 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: As an example: The best place to fool people and to convince them to give you some money or something else is around Churches and Mosques. People who have just been engaged in more spiritual endeavors will be more likely to share with you some resources even if you are a man or woman who simply is too lazy to work.
Yes, people who are engaged in "spiritual endeavors" can be easily exploited and often suspend reason and critical thinking to be a victim of such things. You just told us you are engaged in spirituality for decades. Are you able to make the next obvious conclusion about yourself, or ....oh wait, i got it, you are doing the "true" spirituality the only "correct" one as you have told us in another thread.
 
(August 5, 2026 at 8:30 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: In the same way: The average men and women of our age are still very ignorant and gullible if you ask me.
What age do you think i am? What is your age? How can anyone as ignorant and gullible like you judge others ignorance and gullibility!? Sounds more like a coping mechanism to me. Its not you who is ignorant, its everybody else!


(August 5, 2026 at 8:30 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: So this is how evangelical Christians are ending up supporting a very erratic US President (if you ask me) and are doing so because they think that this is the most “Christian” thing to do.
Its because they are full of...spirituality, thus ignoring reality and facts and still thinking he is sent by God, part of Gods plan. You are probably just an american passport and some Mega Church visit away from being one of them, but you are too ignorant to know or admit. You think your "spirituality" shields you from becoming religious. You fail to see that you already are religious. "Spirituality" is your god, you believe without good reason, without having a methodology/tool to decide what is right and wrong, you have "faith in spirituality", and you shield your precious belief from scrutiny. "i am doing it for decades" ist just a prime example of how bad your defense to criticism is.

 
(August 5, 2026 at 8:30 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: I’m miles away from that.
Rather an inch.

(August 5, 2026 at 8:30 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: I care only about the core spiritual messages in the main spiritual traditions.
And yet you can not present a reliable methodology to do so. You cant even define what "spirituality" is. You have no tool whatsoever to determine what is "right" and "wrong" about them.

(August 5, 2026 at 8:30 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: So I sort of agree with Pope Francis’s message above and disagree with the MAGA base in the US. And I am doing this based on my two decades or more of spiritual practice.
How did your "spiritual practice" inform you about the Pope being correct and MAGA being wrong? Please lay open your "spiritual" methodology.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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Messages In This Thread
A Philosophy of War and Conflict - by Leonardo17 - July 28, 2026 at 2:07 pm
RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict - by awty - July 28, 2026 at 8:23 pm
RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict - by The Valkyrie - July 28, 2026 at 9:42 pm
RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict - by Belacqua - July 29, 2026 at 12:02 am
RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict - by Deesse23 - July 29, 2026 at 2:16 am
RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict - by Fake Messiah - July 29, 2026 at 6:16 am
RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict - by Deesse23 - July 29, 2026 at 11:29 am
RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict - by Belacqua - July 29, 2026 at 5:48 am
RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict - by Leonardo17 - August 1, 2026 at 11:29 am
RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict - by Deesse23 - August 1, 2026 at 1:51 pm
RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2026 at 12:12 pm
RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2026 at 12:22 pm
RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict - by awty - August 1, 2026 at 1:51 pm
RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict - by Leonardo17 - August 4, 2026 at 9:59 am
RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict - by Leonardo17 - August 5, 2026 at 8:30 am
RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict - by Deesse23 - August 5, 2026 at 9:24 am
RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict - by Angrboda - August 5, 2026 at 1:26 pm

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