RE: How can Christians not admit Christianity is all a pile of garbage when ...?
February 11, 2012 at 5:32 pm
(This post was last modified: February 11, 2012 at 5:37 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Yeah, christianity definitely had a head start on you, it's everywhere, and has been everywhere for a long time. You'd have to run pretty fast to overtake it and get away from it if you were born in it's talons, so to speak. One of the things that really makes my skin crawl about the whole bit. It's this massive faceless inhuman oppressor (that has outlived generations of us), and yet it's full of smiling people who are not oppressors themselves.
Untrustworthy sure, but non-existent? Not for that reason. Some people like barroom drunkards, religious thought has something for everyone. Some denominations actually do hold that there are people incapable of worshiping christ (or that we all are, and require help from god himself in that area). They hold this up as proof of the claims to truth made by their denomination. Whether or not you could worship it, and whether or not you were doomed has no bearing on whether or not this god exists. Some denominations might break down, but many would and do thrive on exactly this sort of dogma.
You could make the appeal, and then god could grant you the faith, which is again, consistent with some denominations dogma. You're supposed to, yes, but you're fallen..remember? Some don't feel they have to go anywhere at all, that there is no reason to salvage their myths because there is nothing in their myths that contradicts what we know. You know "you can't rule this out" or "science provides ample evidence and support for my faith..etc". They're not salvaging anything, because nothing is broken.
I hope so too, but again, I'm not just wondering whether or not you'll fall for what other people tell you, but whether or not you can trust what you tell yourself.
If I'm going to make truth claims based off of and in accordance with "knowledge"I find in a book (like the vedas) it had damn well better be the gospel truth! What's published about Wicca and what is not aren't entirely different things. It is a sort of umbrella religion though, it means many things to many people so it does get dicey...you have to first figure out just what type of wiccan you're talking about before speaking to the specifics. Even then, there's a heavy dose of customization. Wicca doesn't drive me nuts, I've been on witchvox for years and years..lol. Some wiccans do though. I think wicca is quaint and pleasant, for the most part. Bullshit, but happy bullshit.
Untrustworthy sure, but non-existent? Not for that reason. Some people like barroom drunkards, religious thought has something for everyone. Some denominations actually do hold that there are people incapable of worshiping christ (or that we all are, and require help from god himself in that area). They hold this up as proof of the claims to truth made by their denomination. Whether or not you could worship it, and whether or not you were doomed has no bearing on whether or not this god exists. Some denominations might break down, but many would and do thrive on exactly this sort of dogma.
You could make the appeal, and then god could grant you the faith, which is again, consistent with some denominations dogma. You're supposed to, yes, but you're fallen..remember? Some don't feel they have to go anywhere at all, that there is no reason to salvage their myths because there is nothing in their myths that contradicts what we know. You know "you can't rule this out" or "science provides ample evidence and support for my faith..etc". They're not salvaging anything, because nothing is broken.
I hope so too, but again, I'm not just wondering whether or not you'll fall for what other people tell you, but whether or not you can trust what you tell yourself.
If I'm going to make truth claims based off of and in accordance with "knowledge"I find in a book (like the vedas) it had damn well better be the gospel truth! What's published about Wicca and what is not aren't entirely different things. It is a sort of umbrella religion though, it means many things to many people so it does get dicey...you have to first figure out just what type of wiccan you're talking about before speaking to the specifics. Even then, there's a heavy dose of customization. Wicca doesn't drive me nuts, I've been on witchvox for years and years..lol. Some wiccans do though. I think wicca is quaint and pleasant, for the most part. Bullshit, but happy bullshit.
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