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RE: Come to England
February 14, 2012 at 6:26 am
(February 14, 2012 at 5:48 am)Tiberius Wrote: IMO, a choice that ends with the death of an innocent can never be construed as "the right choice".

I agree with you Tiberius to a point. The death of an innocent can never be "the right choice" as you say. However at what point does an embryo become a person? It sounds like you consider the moment of conception to be that point but many other (myself included) it comes at a later stage of development. A bundle of cells only a few weeks into pregnancy doesn't constitute an innocent life in my opinion. I'm probably touching on a very emotive issue so I don't want to start a riot but I have always believed a woman has the right to choose (up to a certain time in the development of the embryo).

And as for the clergy sitting in the upper house (house of lords in our case). The British house of lords has very little power. Yes they have the option to reject legislation from the elected members of parliament but if the government so chooses they can quite easily bypass the lords and make it law anyway. Just like what happened the other week with the welfare benefits cap.

The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true - Carl Sagan
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Come to England - by Darwinian - February 10, 2012 at 7:02 am
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 10, 2012 at 7:28 am
RE: Come to England - by orogenicman - February 10, 2012 at 7:46 am
RE: Come to England - by Napoléon - February 10, 2012 at 8:27 am
RE: Come to England - by AthiestAtheist - February 10, 2012 at 11:20 am
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 10, 2012 at 12:16 pm
RE: Come to England - by padraic - February 10, 2012 at 8:00 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 10, 2012 at 8:15 pm
RE: Come to England - by Norfolk And Chance - February 12, 2012 at 9:40 am
RE: Come to England - by Ziploc Surprise - February 10, 2012 at 12:26 pm
RE: Come to England - by kılıç_mehmet - February 10, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 10, 2012 at 1:03 pm
RE: Come to England - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 10, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RE: Come to England - by Doubting Thomas - February 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: Come to England - by Ziploc Surprise - February 10, 2012 at 4:12 pm
RE: Come to England - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 4:29 pm
RE: Come to England - by Whateverist - February 11, 2012 at 5:25 pm
RE: Come to England - by DeistPaladin - February 10, 2012 at 5:25 pm
RE: Come to England - by Minimalist - February 17, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RE: Come to England - by Welsh cake - February 10, 2012 at 6:57 pm
RE: Come to England - by Ziploc Surprise - February 10, 2012 at 7:20 pm
RE: Come to England - by Welsh cake - February 10, 2012 at 7:56 pm
RE: Come to England - by Darth - February 10, 2012 at 8:11 pm
RE: Come to England - by teblin - February 11, 2012 at 2:58 pm
RE: Come to England - by Ziploc Surprise - February 11, 2012 at 5:26 pm
RE: Come to England - by Ziploc Surprise - February 12, 2012 at 6:22 pm
RE: Come to England - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 3:46 pm
RE: Come to England - by Epimethean - February 11, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 12, 2012 at 10:38 am
RE: Come to England - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2012 at 10:57 am
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 12, 2012 at 10:58 am
RE: Come to England - by downbeatplumb - February 12, 2012 at 1:33 pm
RE: Come to England - by Whateverist - February 12, 2012 at 1:37 pm
RE: Come to England - by passionatefool - February 12, 2012 at 2:47 pm
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 12, 2012 at 5:17 pm
RE: Come to England - by 5thHorseman - February 12, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 12, 2012 at 5:50 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 12, 2012 at 5:52 pm
RE: Come to England - by 5thHorseman - February 12, 2012 at 5:53 pm
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 12, 2012 at 6:00 pm
RE: Come to England - by 5thHorseman - February 12, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 12, 2012 at 6:06 pm
RE: Come to England - by padraic - February 12, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RE: Come to England - by Chuff - February 14, 2012 at 4:24 am
RE: Come to England - by DeistPaladin - February 14, 2012 at 1:07 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 4:44 am
RE: Come to England - by Chuff - February 14, 2012 at 4:56 am
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 4:58 am
RE: Come to England - by Chuff - February 14, 2012 at 5:07 am
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 5:23 am
RE: Come to England - by Chuff - February 14, 2012 at 5:36 am
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 5:48 am
RE: Come to England - by Chuff - February 14, 2012 at 6:04 am
RE: Come to England - by MrSkeptic - February 14, 2012 at 6:26 am
RE: Come to England - by KichigaiNeko - February 14, 2012 at 8:14 am
RE: Come to England - by leo-rcc - February 14, 2012 at 8:20 am
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 8:42 am
RE: Come to England - by MrSkeptic - February 14, 2012 at 1:46 pm
RE: Come to England - by DeistPaladin - February 14, 2012 at 1:50 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RE: Come to England - by DeistPaladin - February 14, 2012 at 2:53 pm
RE: Come to England - by genkaus - February 14, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RE: Come to England - by DeistPaladin - February 14, 2012 at 5:21 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: Come to England - by 5thHorseman - February 14, 2012 at 8:51 am
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 9:06 am
RE: Come to England - by Chuff - February 14, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: Come to England - by Doubting Thomas - February 14, 2012 at 12:08 pm
RE: Come to England - by Napoléon - February 14, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 12:48 pm
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 14, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Come to England - by Napoléon - February 14, 2012 at 12:53 pm
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 14, 2012 at 12:54 pm
RE: Come to England - by Napoléon - February 14, 2012 at 12:55 pm
RE: Come to England - by MrSkeptic - February 14, 2012 at 1:57 pm
RE: Come to England - by Doubting Thomas - February 14, 2012 at 2:21 pm
RE: Come to England - by Napoléon - February 14, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: Come to England - by padraic - February 14, 2012 at 4:53 pm
RE: Come to England - by DeistPaladin - February 14, 2012 at 3:06 pm
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 14, 2012 at 3:00 pm
RE: Come to England - by Jackalope - February 14, 2012 at 3:41 pm
RE: Come to England - by 5thHorseman - February 14, 2012 at 3:09 pm
RE: Come to England - by Doubting Thomas - February 14, 2012 at 3:31 pm
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 14, 2012 at 5:14 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tobie - February 14, 2012 at 6:06 pm
RE: Come to England - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 17, 2012 at 8:46 am
RE: Come to England - by Ziploc Surprise - February 17, 2012 at 11:36 am
RE: Come to England - by jason56 - February 14, 2012 at 8:03 pm
RE: Come to England - by bozo - February 16, 2012 at 8:24 am
RE: Come to England - by 5thHorseman - February 16, 2012 at 8:39 am
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 16, 2012 at 9:35 am
RE: Come to England - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 17, 2012 at 12:17 pm
RE: Come to England - by Ziploc Surprise - February 17, 2012 at 2:37 pm
RE: Come to England - by DeistPaladin - February 18, 2012 at 1:21 am
RE: Come to England - by 5thHorseman - February 17, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RE: Come to England - by bozo - February 18, 2012 at 5:58 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tobie - February 19, 2012 at 3:49 pm
RE: Come to England - by frankiej - February 19, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tobie - February 19, 2012 at 3:54 pm
RE: Come to England - by frankiej - February 19, 2012 at 3:55 pm
RE: Come to England - by 5thHorseman - February 19, 2012 at 3:56 pm
RE: Come to England - by frankiej - February 19, 2012 at 3:59 pm
RE: Come to England - by LEDO - February 19, 2012 at 6:04 pm

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