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Come to England
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RE: Come to England
(February 14, 2012 at 8:42 am)Tiberius Wrote: @MrSkeptic: What do you mean by "person"? The embryo is a human (genetically speaking) from conception. If you support any kind of abortion, you support the killing of innocent humans, and there is no getting around that fact. I'm not holding it against you if that is really what you support, but I personally cannot.

I guess I was trying to argue my opinion that I don't believe an embryo is the early stages of development can be classed as a person. Certainly not before the brain and nervous system are beginning to form. That's generally why abortion laws don't allow termination after x number of months (not sure exactly what the limit is in the UK) when such development has occurred.

However like I say that is just my opinion and I totally respect yours and where you are coming from. I have many friends who are equally split on the particulars (and as I also said its certainly a very emotive issue!). I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one Smile

The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true - Carl Sagan
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Come to England - by Darwinian - February 10, 2012 at 7:02 am
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 10, 2012 at 7:28 am
RE: Come to England - by orogenicman - February 10, 2012 at 7:46 am
RE: Come to England - by Napoléon - February 10, 2012 at 8:27 am
RE: Come to England - by AthiestAtheist - February 10, 2012 at 11:20 am
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 10, 2012 at 12:16 pm
RE: Come to England - by padraic - February 10, 2012 at 8:00 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 10, 2012 at 8:15 pm
RE: Come to England - by Norfolk And Chance - February 12, 2012 at 9:40 am
RE: Come to England - by Ziploc Surprise - February 10, 2012 at 12:26 pm
RE: Come to England - by kılıç_mehmet - February 10, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 10, 2012 at 1:03 pm
RE: Come to England - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 10, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RE: Come to England - by Doubting Thomas - February 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: Come to England - by Ziploc Surprise - February 10, 2012 at 4:12 pm
RE: Come to England - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 4:29 pm
RE: Come to England - by Whateverist - February 11, 2012 at 5:25 pm
RE: Come to England - by DeistPaladin - February 10, 2012 at 5:25 pm
RE: Come to England - by Minimalist - February 17, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RE: Come to England - by Welsh cake - February 10, 2012 at 6:57 pm
RE: Come to England - by Ziploc Surprise - February 10, 2012 at 7:20 pm
RE: Come to England - by Welsh cake - February 10, 2012 at 7:56 pm
RE: Come to England - by Darth - February 10, 2012 at 8:11 pm
RE: Come to England - by teblin - February 11, 2012 at 2:58 pm
RE: Come to England - by Ziploc Surprise - February 11, 2012 at 5:26 pm
RE: Come to England - by Ziploc Surprise - February 12, 2012 at 6:22 pm
RE: Come to England - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 3:46 pm
RE: Come to England - by Epimethean - February 11, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 12, 2012 at 10:38 am
RE: Come to England - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2012 at 10:57 am
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RE: Come to England - by downbeatplumb - February 12, 2012 at 1:33 pm
RE: Come to England - by Whateverist - February 12, 2012 at 1:37 pm
RE: Come to England - by passionatefool - February 12, 2012 at 2:47 pm
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RE: Come to England - by 5thHorseman - February 12, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 12, 2012 at 5:50 pm
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RE: Come to England - by 5thHorseman - February 12, 2012 at 5:53 pm
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 12, 2012 at 6:00 pm
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RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 12, 2012 at 6:06 pm
RE: Come to England - by padraic - February 12, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RE: Come to England - by Chuff - February 14, 2012 at 4:24 am
RE: Come to England - by DeistPaladin - February 14, 2012 at 1:07 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 4:44 am
RE: Come to England - by Chuff - February 14, 2012 at 4:56 am
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 4:58 am
RE: Come to England - by Chuff - February 14, 2012 at 5:07 am
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 5:23 am
RE: Come to England - by Chuff - February 14, 2012 at 5:36 am
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 5:48 am
RE: Come to England - by Chuff - February 14, 2012 at 6:04 am
RE: Come to England - by MrSkeptic - February 14, 2012 at 6:26 am
RE: Come to England - by KichigaiNeko - February 14, 2012 at 8:14 am
RE: Come to England - by leo-rcc - February 14, 2012 at 8:20 am
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 8:42 am
RE: Come to England - by MrSkeptic - February 14, 2012 at 1:46 pm
RE: Come to England - by DeistPaladin - February 14, 2012 at 1:50 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RE: Come to England - by DeistPaladin - February 14, 2012 at 2:53 pm
RE: Come to England - by genkaus - February 14, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RE: Come to England - by DeistPaladin - February 14, 2012 at 5:21 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: Come to England - by 5thHorseman - February 14, 2012 at 8:51 am
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 9:06 am
RE: Come to England - by Chuff - February 14, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: Come to England - by Doubting Thomas - February 14, 2012 at 12:08 pm
RE: Come to England - by Napoléon - February 14, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 14, 2012 at 12:48 pm
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 14, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Come to England - by Napoléon - February 14, 2012 at 12:53 pm
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 14, 2012 at 12:54 pm
RE: Come to England - by Napoléon - February 14, 2012 at 12:55 pm
RE: Come to England - by MrSkeptic - February 14, 2012 at 1:57 pm
RE: Come to England - by Doubting Thomas - February 14, 2012 at 2:21 pm
RE: Come to England - by Napoléon - February 14, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: Come to England - by padraic - February 14, 2012 at 4:53 pm
RE: Come to England - by DeistPaladin - February 14, 2012 at 3:06 pm
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 14, 2012 at 3:00 pm
RE: Come to England - by Jackalope - February 14, 2012 at 3:41 pm
RE: Come to England - by 5thHorseman - February 14, 2012 at 3:09 pm
RE: Come to England - by Doubting Thomas - February 14, 2012 at 3:31 pm
RE: Come to England - by thesummerqueen - February 14, 2012 at 5:14 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tobie - February 14, 2012 at 6:06 pm
RE: Come to England - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 17, 2012 at 8:46 am
RE: Come to England - by Ziploc Surprise - February 17, 2012 at 11:36 am
RE: Come to England - by jason56 - February 14, 2012 at 8:03 pm
RE: Come to England - by bozo - February 16, 2012 at 8:24 am
RE: Come to England - by 5thHorseman - February 16, 2012 at 8:39 am
RE: Come to England - by Tiberius - February 16, 2012 at 9:35 am
RE: Come to England - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 17, 2012 at 12:17 pm
RE: Come to England - by Ziploc Surprise - February 17, 2012 at 2:37 pm
RE: Come to England - by DeistPaladin - February 18, 2012 at 1:21 am
RE: Come to England - by 5thHorseman - February 17, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RE: Come to England - by bozo - February 18, 2012 at 5:58 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tobie - February 19, 2012 at 3:49 pm
RE: Come to England - by frankiej - February 19, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RE: Come to England - by Tobie - February 19, 2012 at 3:54 pm
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RE: Come to England - by 5thHorseman - February 19, 2012 at 3:56 pm
RE: Come to England - by frankiej - February 19, 2012 at 3:59 pm
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