RE: Serious Query Regarding Jesus
March 30, 2012 at 8:57 am
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2012 at 9:01 am by The Grand Nudger.)
1- Things were "rotten" after this time as well. Christianity was not and is not some shining beacon of goodness. Not then, and not now.
2-A humanist who was a vocal supporter of thought crime.
3-Plausible reinterpretations of ghost stories? No dice.
4-Yet we don't actually see very many faith healers elevated to the status of living god.
5-Or maybe they assisted in developing the myth.
6-The romans kept pretty good records, and you'd think that a very specific record would be of such high value to believers that they would endeavor to locate and preserve it, but all we have are forgeries. Why someone would need to manufacture forgeries if there was actually anything of substance to this story is beyond me.
7-You know many atheists that refer to a deity as their father?
8-This entire list ends the same way it began, swallowing the kool-aid in one form or another and for what? To salvage a character we feel extremely familiar with?
Try this, the Jesus written about in the NT is a narrative device, a speak and play that this or that author plugged their own words into in order to garner a measure of authority or credibility that they would have been unable to secure for themselves. There is no game changing moral code that is said to fall from the lips of this device. What we're talking about here is a manufactured hero that espoused social commentary that isn't actually all that remarkable for the time it was said to have been uttered, and can be sourced from any number of other commentators. It may have held water two thousand years ago, today, not so much (and even then, there was a group of people we call "Jews" -not to mention a whole host of other religious groups- that didn't seem to be very impressed by all this Jesus business).
2-A humanist who was a vocal supporter of thought crime.
3-Plausible reinterpretations of ghost stories? No dice.
4-Yet we don't actually see very many faith healers elevated to the status of living god.
5-Or maybe they assisted in developing the myth.
6-The romans kept pretty good records, and you'd think that a very specific record would be of such high value to believers that they would endeavor to locate and preserve it, but all we have are forgeries. Why someone would need to manufacture forgeries if there was actually anything of substance to this story is beyond me.
7-You know many atheists that refer to a deity as their father?
8-This entire list ends the same way it began, swallowing the kool-aid in one form or another and for what? To salvage a character we feel extremely familiar with?
Try this, the Jesus written about in the NT is a narrative device, a speak and play that this or that author plugged their own words into in order to garner a measure of authority or credibility that they would have been unable to secure for themselves. There is no game changing moral code that is said to fall from the lips of this device. What we're talking about here is a manufactured hero that espoused social commentary that isn't actually all that remarkable for the time it was said to have been uttered, and can be sourced from any number of other commentators. It may have held water two thousand years ago, today, not so much (and even then, there was a group of people we call "Jews" -not to mention a whole host of other religious groups- that didn't seem to be very impressed by all this Jesus business).
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