(May 5, 2012 at 9:32 am)Abishalom Wrote:(May 5, 2012 at 12:21 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Tell him to look into the sky like 'Abraham' did. Every single star up there could potentially be a solar system like ours. By default we represent the low probability of life because we are here.You're using appeal to probability. There are billions of solar systems in the universe therefore there must a at least 1 with life. That's not a reasonable conclusion.
Appeal to probability...? Your house is standing right now because civil engineers used probabilities to calculate its members so that it won't ever collapse. Probability also explains why you can even see at all; because the bombardment of millions of photons at an atom (i.e. object) will give a high probability of the electrons jumping to an excited state and coming back down therefore releasing a photon i.e. light. Probability is sometimes the only way to analyze or understand something.
I could say that your hope in winning the lotto is appeal to probability. That's silly, because it can be calculated how many times you would have to play to win. Habitable planets wouldn't be any different. Keep discovering more and eventually you'll find one with life.
Quote:Also, the earth is only a 'perfect ecosystem' because it's adapted to the environment. It doesn't work backwards in the sense that one can say the ecosystem is perfect because the earth was placed just right. Instead, our planet was in an optimal position therefore life could commence.
Quote:I'm that's not a reasonable rebuttal of the fact the earth (out of billions of planets) is the only documented one with diverse life.When did we discover the conditions of these other billion planets? Cite your source please.
We've only just scratched the surface. There is still so much to be seen, if we'll ever be able to see that much in detail to be able to observe life. The technology is most likely lacking for that sort of capability right now.
Again, out of the billions upon billions of planets out there, the earth by default represents the chance that a planet could have the features like ours. It's basic probability.
Quote:In what way does a guy BUILDING a model that resembles eye function of various organism prove that they "evolved" naturally. There no logic or evidence in this video to support that claim.Yes there is. He is showing that along every step there is a benefit, which in turn would favour the species for survival. That's natural selection for you.
Quote:Spiderman isn't in the bible (The Da Vinci Code is literally history within a fiction framework. Are those characters real? No. There's no reason to think that because it contains aspects of reality it therefore must be real.). But those peoples mentioned are and in correct order that agrees with history.
Quote:Well then Spiderman doesn't actually live in New York (since he's not real).Within the comics he does live in New York. That is a fact

Quote:Post link to thread please.http://atheistforums.org/thread-12692.html
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