RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 10, 2012 at 8:09 pm
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2012 at 8:16 pm by Drich.)
(May 10, 2012 at 4:29 pm)Shell B Wrote: So is sex between a man and woman outside of marriage,Which is what I have been saying since the beginning. (It is like anyother sexual sin. meaning sexual sin between man and woman.)
Quote:but men and women are allowed to get married, so why aren't gay people?Outside of "Because God said so," I do not know/The bible does not say.
Quote:You have yet to provide anything that says gay people can't get married. That is what this is about.I have said that a sanctified marriage is between man and woman as per 1 co 7. Being in a sanctified marriage is the only context in which sexual activity is sanctioned by God.
(May 10, 2012 at 3:54 pm)genkaus Wrote:(May 10, 2012 at 3:13 pm)Drich Wrote: All sex outside the confines of the covenant of marriage is a sin.(Acts 15:20; 1 Corinthians 5:1; 6:13, 18; 10:8; 2 Corinthians 12:21; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Jude 7). The Bible promotes complete abstinence before marriage. Sex between a husband and his wife is the only form of sexual relations of which God approves (Hebrews 13:4).
Great. So what laws is the Christian right proposing to outlaw adultery and pre-marital sex? Is stoning going to be reinstated or are we going to use a firing squad as the new version?
I have answer this question 3 times now, why don't you guys try reading post other than your own.
In short Identifying homosexuality as a sin only has one purpose from a biblical stand point, and that is to have the sinner repent (turn from his sin) and seek attonement through the sacrifice Christ offered... Just like anyother sin.
(May 10, 2012 at 4:54 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: The whole "pre-marital sex is a sin" argument is a big fat red herring.
how so?
(May 10, 2012 at 5:11 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Why can't the church keep it's nose out of other peoples business?
The pope tells poor people not to use contraception... this gives them large families which they can't afford to feed (he also ignores child molesting priests) Why should he make the rules when he doesn't play the game?
The question should be is the "pope" and the religion he repersents the only expression of Christianity?
(May 10, 2012 at 4:41 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: So it's only a sin if if it is committed outside the confines of marriage?
So let gays get married and it's no longer a problem.
Taken from the last person to ask this question:
Shell B Wrote: So, it makes premarital sex a sin. If you let gay people get married, which your quotes say nothing against, that would not be a problem.
Ok good! so now all you have to do is provide a context where the covenant of marriage is extended to same sex couples and your home free. If you can not, then know all homosexual activity outside the confines of a santified marriage is still a sin. Not the unforgivable sin like some think but still a sin never the less.
Quote:Again, show me where it says homosexuality is a sin.
I have, in that their is not a conext in the bible where it is permitted. Meaning if a Santified Marriage is the only context in which sex is permitted then every sexual act (Homosexual or not) is a sin. Homosexuals are no different then hetrosexuals in this regaurd.
Quote:Let's not assume every homosexual is having premarital sex so you can argue with that verse.
They are unless you can provide book chapter and verse that shows a same sex marriage as being santified before God.
Quote:Specifically, where does it say it? And . . . where does it say that men can't marry men and women can't marry women?
I am asserting that marriage is between a man and a woman. 1cor 7:2 I am also saying that sex outside of the santity of marriage is a sin: (Acts 15:20; 1 Corinthians 5:1; 6:13, 18; 10:8; 2 Corinthians 12:21; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Jude 7). The Bible promotes complete abstinence before marriage. Sex between a husband and his wife is the only form of sexual relations of which God approves (Hebrews 13:4).
I am not saying anything else. If you think it is ok before God for a man to marry a man or a woman a woman then it is on you to show me book chapter and verse.
Homosexuality is a sin of sexual immorality just like everyother sexual sin. Why? Because like everyother sexual sin it is done outside the confines of a santified marriage.
