RE: The division between OT worship and NT worship
May 16, 2012 at 8:11 am
(This post was last modified: May 16, 2012 at 8:29 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 16, 2012 at 12:15 am)Ryft Wrote: 1. If John says that X does not make sense, then I am entering the discussion already knowing that he does not understand. He frankly admitted it. My operating assumption is that John wants to understand; however, that assumption may prove false. Ergo, "their willingness to understand."
Or maybe, just maybe, it actually doesn't make any sense at all. "It makes sense you just don't understand" is pretty common apologetic trash. It doesn't fly when others peddle it, why would it fly when you peddle it?
Quote:2. If the person is not a Christian, then I am entering the discussion already knowing that his "heart is hardened." That does not, however, preclude a fruitful discussion of the matter if he is willing to understand. (And most literate people should be able to grasp that "willing to understand" and "willing to believe" are two very different things; wanting to understand does not involve wanting to believe, so his hardened heart is not a relevant concern.)
You know no such thing, you simply believe it. Yet another garbage religious claim, which you are likely to be incorrect about. Case in point, I can easily understand why people believe in their respective religious traditions, but I rarely find their reasons compelling with regards to the belief itself (though I often find that their reasons are not completely alien to me, common experience of humanity etc). In what way, precisely, does this make my "heart hardened"?
Quote:3. Nowhere have I ever said to someone, "You're mistaken: my translation is the correct one." My concern is whether or not a translation is exegetically sound; if his translation is not exegetically sound (which his argument will make clear), then I will not accept it (and stick with the one that has proven to be).
Do you have any other delusional twaddle to offer?
Never had any to begin with. You're confusing me with the kind of person who assumes that magic and curses are real, and then works forward from that point to explain how people "don't understand", have "hardened hearts", and "bad translations".
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