The debate is over

Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!

Current time: May 31, 2025, 12:45 am

Thread Rating:

2 Vote(s) - 1 Average
1
2
3
4
5

Thread Modes

The debate is over

Epimethean Offline

Nonprude

Religious Views: Unobstructed

Posts: 4234
Threads: 42
Joined: June 7, 2011
Reputation: 33

#82

RE: The debate is over

June 30, 2012 at 9:49 am (This post was last modified: June 30, 2012 at 9:52 am by Epimethean.)

I think the issue at stake is Micah's lack of understanding of the difference between what are called "vivid" or "real" conditionals and what are called "irreal" or "contrafactual" conditionals. The fact that many here followed the suggestion of logic in the conditional statement shows that many are wired to notice the difference.

Trying to update my sig ...

Find

« Next Oldest | Next Newest »

Messages In This Thread

The debate is over - by Opsnyder - June 28, 2012 at 8:10 am

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - June 28, 2012 at 9:11 am

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - June 28, 2012 at 9:42 am

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - June 29, 2012 at 3:16 am

RE: The debate is over - by Zen Badger - June 29, 2012 at 5:00 am

RE: The debate is over - by Tiberius - June 29, 2012 at 8:33 am

RE: The debate is over - by Zen Badger - July 2, 2012 at 6:41 am

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - July 2, 2012 at 8:08 am

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - June 29, 2012 at 6:29 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Simon Moon - June 29, 2012 at 9:12 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Reforged - June 30, 2012 at 3:14 am

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 2, 2012 at 2:51 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Anomalocaris - July 2, 2012 at 6:55 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Welsh cake - June 28, 2012 at 2:40 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 29, 2012 at 3:36 am

RE: The debate is over - by Simon Moon - June 29, 2012 at 9:32 pm

RE: The debate is over - by WeAreTheGods - July 13, 2012 at 2:47 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Tiberius - June 29, 2012 at 4:09 am

RE: The debate is over - by 5thHorseman - June 29, 2012 at 6:32 pm

RE: The debate is over - by padraic - June 29, 2012 at 9:24 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Tempus - June 29, 2012 at 4:18 am

RE: The debate is over - by Angrboda - June 29, 2012 at 5:22 am

RE: The debate is over - by KichigaiNeko - June 29, 2012 at 8:34 am

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - June 29, 2012 at 7:52 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Tempus - June 29, 2012 at 9:23 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - June 29, 2012 at 9:39 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Tempus - June 29, 2012 at 10:52 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Minimalist - June 29, 2012 at 8:31 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Minimalist - June 29, 2012 at 9:51 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 2:52 am

RE: The debate is over - by Tempus - June 30, 2012 at 4:12 am

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - June 30, 2012 at 5:02 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 4:49 am

RE: The debate is over - by Creed of Heresy - June 30, 2012 at 5:08 am

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - June 30, 2012 at 5:11 am

RE: The debate is over - by Creed of Heresy - June 30, 2012 at 4:50 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 5:19 am

RE: The debate is over - by Forsaken - June 30, 2012 at 5:26 am

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - June 30, 2012 at 5:52 am

RE: The debate is over - by Creed of Heresy - June 30, 2012 at 5:22 am

RE: The debate is over - by Xyster - June 30, 2012 at 5:40 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 5:47 am

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - June 30, 2012 at 5:59 am

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - June 30, 2012 at 5:53 am

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - June 30, 2012 at 6:19 am

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - June 30, 2012 at 6:29 am

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 2, 2012 at 5:59 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 5:53 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 6:15 am

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - June 30, 2012 at 6:30 am

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - June 30, 2012 at 8:47 am

RE: The debate is over - by Skepsis - June 30, 2012 at 6:50 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 6:49 am

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - June 30, 2012 at 7:06 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 6:57 am

RE: The debate is over - by Skepsis - June 30, 2012 at 7:19 am

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - June 30, 2012 at 7:29 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 7:35 am

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - June 30, 2012 at 7:43 am

RE: The debate is over - by Skepsis - June 30, 2012 at 8:06 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 7:48 am

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - June 30, 2012 at 8:24 am

RE: The debate is over - by Tempus - June 30, 2012 at 7:50 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 7:53 am

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - June 30, 2012 at 8:06 am

RE: The debate is over - by Xyster - June 30, 2012 at 7:58 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 8:05 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 8:19 am

RE: The debate is over - by Skepsis - June 30, 2012 at 8:32 am

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - June 30, 2012 at 8:33 am

RE: The debate is over - by Creed of Heresy - June 30, 2012 at 8:23 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 8:27 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 8:44 am

RE: The debate is over - by Skepsis - June 30, 2012 at 9:01 am

RE: The debate is over - by The Grand Nudger - June 30, 2012 at 8:54 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 9:09 am

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - June 30, 2012 at 9:11 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 9:18 am

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - June 30, 2012 at 9:20 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 9:22 am

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - June 30, 2012 at 9:24 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 9:28 am

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - June 30, 2012 at 9:30 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 9:35 am

RE: The debate is over - by Skepsis - June 30, 2012 at 9:42 am

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - June 30, 2012 at 9:47 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 9:47 am

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - June 30, 2012 at 9:49 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 9:50 am

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - June 30, 2012 at 9:52 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 9:53 am

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - June 30, 2012 at 9:55 am

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 10:00 am

RE: The debate is over - by Simon Moon - June 30, 2012 at 11:18 am

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - June 30, 2012 at 2:38 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Skepsis - June 30, 2012 at 2:57 pm

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - June 30, 2012 at 3:10 pm

RE: The debate is over - by LastPoet - June 30, 2012 at 5:06 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 1, 2012 at 2:22 am

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - June 30, 2012 at 3:11 pm

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - June 30, 2012 at 4:54 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Creed of Heresy - June 30, 2012 at 6:05 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Ace Otana - June 30, 2012 at 5:59 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - June 30, 2012 at 8:56 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Skepsis - June 30, 2012 at 9:28 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - June 30, 2012 at 9:34 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Light of Truth - July 1, 2012 at 2:40 am

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - July 1, 2012 at 8:38 am

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 1, 2012 at 3:11 am

RE: The debate is over - by Creed of Heresy - July 1, 2012 at 6:30 am

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - July 1, 2012 at 10:52 am

RE: The debate is over - by padraic - July 2, 2012 at 12:49 am

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - July 2, 2012 at 5:25 am

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 2, 2012 at 1:47 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Creed of Heresy - July 2, 2012 at 7:07 pm

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - July 3, 2012 at 3:08 am

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 3, 2012 at 9:19 am

RE: The debate is over - by KichigaiNeko - July 2, 2012 at 9:11 am

RE: The debate is over - by Zen Badger - July 2, 2012 at 9:11 am

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - July 2, 2012 at 9:12 am

RE: The debate is over - by KichigaiNeko - July 2, 2012 at 9:15 am

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - July 2, 2012 at 2:54 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 2, 2012 at 4:05 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Zen Badger - July 3, 2012 at 7:04 am

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - July 2, 2012 at 10:48 am

RE: The debate is over - by Reforged - July 2, 2012 at 12:03 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Minimalist - July 2, 2012 at 12:06 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Faith No More - July 2, 2012 at 4:44 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - July 2, 2012 at 6:29 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 2, 2012 at 11:55 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - July 3, 2012 at 4:45 am

RE: The debate is over - by Creed of Heresy - July 3, 2012 at 6:42 am

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - July 3, 2012 at 2:55 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 3, 2012 at 3:51 pm

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - July 3, 2012 at 3:58 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 3, 2012 at 4:10 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Anomalocaris - July 3, 2012 at 4:05 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Minimalist - July 3, 2012 at 4:46 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Skepsis - July 3, 2012 at 5:09 pm

RE: The debate is over - by dean211284 - July 3, 2012 at 5:23 pm

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - July 4, 2012 at 3:17 am

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 4, 2012 at 3:22 am

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - July 4, 2012 at 7:38 am

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 4, 2012 at 10:11 am

RE: The debate is over - by Skepsis - July 4, 2012 at 7:57 am

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - July 4, 2012 at 6:32 pm

RE: The debate is over - by CliveStaples - July 4, 2012 at 10:12 am

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 4, 2012 at 10:37 am

RE: The debate is over - by CliveStaples - July 4, 2012 at 11:17 am

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 4, 2012 at 6:39 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - July 4, 2012 at 12:04 pm

RE: The debate is over - by CliveStaples - July 4, 2012 at 12:14 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Reforged - July 4, 2012 at 6:37 pm

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - July 5, 2012 at 3:07 am

RE: The debate is over - by Zen Badger - July 5, 2012 at 6:38 am

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - July 5, 2012 at 1:50 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 5, 2012 at 4:40 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Zen Badger - July 6, 2012 at 5:29 am

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - July 6, 2012 at 7:16 am

RE: The debate is over - by Zen Badger - July 6, 2012 at 7:33 am

RE: The debate is over - by Ace Otana - July 6, 2012 at 7:35 am

RE: The debate is over - by Reforged - July 5, 2012 at 3:02 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 5, 2012 at 8:15 am

RE: The debate is over - by Norfolk And Chance - July 4, 2012 at 8:40 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Reforged - July 4, 2012 at 9:24 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - July 4, 2012 at 9:57 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Voltair - July 6, 2012 at 1:25 am

RE: The debate is over - by CliveStaples - July 6, 2012 at 5:59 am

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 6, 2012 at 9:15 am

RE: The debate is over - by CliveStaples - July 6, 2012 at 9:27 am

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 6, 2012 at 4:02 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - July 6, 2012 at 10:16 am

RE: The debate is over - by CliveStaples - July 6, 2012 at 10:36 am

RE: The debate is over - by Epimethean - July 6, 2012 at 10:38 am

Re: RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - July 6, 2012 at 2:36 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Zen Badger - July 7, 2012 at 3:27 am

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - July 7, 2012 at 4:12 am

RE: The debate is over - by Reforged - July 7, 2012 at 9:04 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Skepsis - July 8, 2012 at 2:49 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Zen Badger - July 9, 2012 at 6:58 am

RE: The debate is over - by Jackalope - July 6, 2012 at 4:09 pm

RE: The debate is over - by CliveStaples - July 6, 2012 at 4:43 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Faith No More - July 6, 2012 at 5:01 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Jackalope - July 6, 2012 at 5:02 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Reforged - July 6, 2012 at 5:13 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Faith No More - July 6, 2012 at 5:17 pm

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - July 6, 2012 at 5:32 pm

RE: The debate is over - by The Grand Nudger - July 6, 2012 at 5:33 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Autumnlicious - July 6, 2012 at 5:49 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Reforged - July 6, 2012 at 10:03 pm

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - July 8, 2012 at 3:53 am

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 8, 2012 at 3:34 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Reforged - July 8, 2012 at 3:55 pm

RE: The debate is over - by fr0d0 - July 9, 2012 at 8:09 am

RE: The debate is over - by Zen Badger - July 9, 2012 at 8:13 am

RE: The debate is over - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 9, 2012 at 1:29 pm

RE: The debate is over - by Faith No More - July 9, 2012 at 8:13 am

RE: The debate is over - by Mister Agenda - July 9, 2012 at 11:20 am

RE: The debate is over - by WhatIfGodWasJustAMyth - July 13, 2012 at 3:16 pm

RE: The debate is over - by padraic - July 13, 2012 at 8:35 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread		Author	Replies	Views	Last Post
	Where to Debate Theists?	Cephus	27	7464	April 13, 2017 at 8:51 pm Last Post: Nanny
	Has the Atheism vs. Theism debate played it's course?	MJ the Skeptical	49	13672	August 12, 2016 at 8:43 am Last Post: MJ the Skeptical
	Your favorite Atheist Theist Debate?	Nuda900	11	4911	February 28, 2016 at 8:08 pm Last Post: abaris
	A great atheist debate video.	Jehanne	0	1319	February 14, 2016 at 12:04 am Last Post: Jehanne
	What you see when you win a religious debate... x3	IanHulett	15	6077	October 20, 2015 at 7:45 am Last Post: robvalue
	AF friends, an opinion on Bible debate, please	drfuzzy	25	6447	October 1, 2015 at 10:50 am Last Post: houseofcantor
	Dawkins' Debate Rejections	Shuffle	46	13448	August 28, 2015 at 8:04 pm Last Post: Spooky
	Dawkins explains why he wont debate William Lane Craig	Justtristo	45	13041	June 29, 2015 at 3:00 am Last Post: robvalue
	Anyone want to debate this formally with me?	Mystic	37	10150	November 5, 2014 at 3:58 pm Last Post: Angrboda
	Organ transplant debate.	c172	14	4774	May 11, 2014 at 8:54 am Last Post: Mr Greene

View a Printable Version

Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)

Login
Username:
Password:	Lost Password?
	Remember me