Obama care

[C.W. Sims]

I guess we won't agree on this

This is where you are wrong. I actually agree with quite a bit that you are saying. I honestly feel that people like the ones you are describing should be completely excluded from health care systems unless they personally pay for it.

I will quantify what I said earlier as this, health care should not (normally) be something you have to pay for. However, should it be shown that your health problems are your own fault and you aren't actively trying to make changes, well that's sort of on you now isn't it? In the case that what I just said is shown to happen the person should be put out in the cold and made to fend for themselves. When you abuse the system I feel you deserve for the system to drop you like a used up hooker. When you smoke, drink, party it up, do drugs, grossly overeat, refuse to exercise, or any other combination of things that you know are detrimental to your health you are abusing the system.

With that said, I am for universal health care for those who will not abuse it. Just like I am for food stamps and wic for those who won't abuse it. I am also for greatly increasing the regulations on said social programs to make it much more difficult for them to be abused and to harshly punish those who do abuse.

I sort of fall about halfway into the spectrum of Objectivism without all the childish selfishness that goes along with it. So before you just assume that you are alone in this and get belligerent you might want to really try to have a conversation with someone.