Re: Atheism is the punk rock of religion
July 31, 2012 at 2:12 am
(This post was last modified: July 31, 2012 at 2:53 am by fr0d0.)
One more time Raph, I have very clearly stated why you contradict yourself. I quoted multiple examples and then given the reasons why. You can't say that I haven't given the clear evidence above of the fact. I can only think that you have some kind of physical disability that prevents you from seeing this. From this point onwards I no longer wish to repeat myself. If you can't see what I'm saying, please consult a trusted person to explain it to you.
If you call yourself an atheist, and your stated reason for that position is that you think a non corporeal entity is not real because you cannot have verifiable, empirical proof of it (this is a literal contradiction if you didn't realise it), then you have a position on god or gods.
You are therefore an atheist for the reason that you state (even though that reason is illogical).
If you had no position you would have no reason. You would not be an atheist.
As soon as you label yourself atheist, you are declaring a position. On a god or gods.
Is a person who hasn't declared a position an atheist? > no. They could either believe or not believe.
@ whateverist
You don't need to understand any more about deity than a single fact. Any dictionary can provide you with that.
That you have a position, even if it's one of "i find equally compelling evidence for the Easter Bunny" (a correct statement from ignorance (ignosticism)), then you still have a position on deity. You are reacting to a claim of belief with an opposite claim: lack of belief.
Interesting question.
You publically declare that you understand that god cannot be sensed*. I, as a strong believer agree with you that god cannot be sensed. Where does that leave your argument?
*both of us rule out non proven senses
If that is your only given argument for atheism. It isn't an argument. An argument has to be a disagreement over something surely?
If you call yourself an atheist, and your stated reason for that position is that you think a non corporeal entity is not real because you cannot have verifiable, empirical proof of it (this is a literal contradiction if you didn't realise it), then you have a position on god or gods.
You are therefore an atheist for the reason that you state (even though that reason is illogical).
If you had no position you would have no reason. You would not be an atheist.
As soon as you label yourself atheist, you are declaring a position. On a god or gods.
Is a person who hasn't declared a position an atheist? > no. They could either believe or not believe.
@ whateverist
You don't need to understand any more about deity than a single fact. Any dictionary can provide you with that.
That you have a position, even if it's one of "i find equally compelling evidence for the Easter Bunny" (a correct statement from ignorance (ignosticism)), then you still have a position on deity. You are reacting to a claim of belief with an opposite claim: lack of belief.
Interesting question.
You publically declare that you understand that god cannot be sensed*. I, as a strong believer agree with you that god cannot be sensed. Where does that leave your argument?
*both of us rule out non proven senses
If that is your only given argument for atheism. It isn't an argument. An argument has to be a disagreement over something surely?
