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Atheism is the punk rock of religion
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion
(July 31, 2012 at 3:59 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(July 30, 2012 at 9:59 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Oh and there seemed to be some confusion as to why these statements contradict:

1. This claims Atheism is a position on God and as a result implies that it is more than a simple lack of belief.

A lack of belief in God, in that there is no belief he exists. This, as you so adequately put, is all Atheism is.

1. If you had a situation where a totally isolated person had no definition of god/s available to them, then for them to be defined as atheist would have to be by someone who understood what atheism was.

To class that person as 'atheist' would be to categorise them in relation to a belief in god/s. So the only way we can graft 'atheist' onto that person is by assigning a position on god/s.

That would never have to violate the law of atheism equalling a lack of belief in god/s. Therefore 1. isn't a contradiction with a.

If someone has no concept of Gods or the supernatural then they hold no belief in either.
True or false?
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- Abdul Alhazred.
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Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 24, 2012 at 1:55 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 24, 2012 at 3:37 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Cato - July 24, 2012 at 3:43 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Cato - July 24, 2012 at 2:10 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by padraic - July 24, 2012 at 4:54 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Tempus - July 24, 2012 at 6:23 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Erinome - July 24, 2012 at 6:53 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Napoléon - July 24, 2012 at 6:58 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Ace Otana - July 24, 2012 at 6:59 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Darwinian - July 24, 2012 at 9:09 am
Re: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 24, 2012 at 1:43 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Napoléon - July 24, 2012 at 3:59 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Ace Otana - July 24, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Napoléon - July 24, 2012 at 4:07 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Ace Otana - July 24, 2012 at 4:10 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Napoléon - July 24, 2012 at 4:12 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Ace Otana - July 24, 2012 at 4:13 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 24, 2012 at 4:15 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by jonb - July 25, 2012 at 8:25 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by jonb - July 24, 2012 at 11:09 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Epimethean - July 24, 2012 at 11:32 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 24, 2012 at 11:12 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by jonb - July 24, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Re: RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 25, 2012 at 1:37 am
Re: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 25, 2012 at 11:40 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 25, 2012 at 12:02 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by padraic - July 25, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Re: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 26, 2012 at 2:16 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by jonb - July 26, 2012 at 8:57 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 26, 2012 at 12:49 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 26, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 26, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Re: RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 26, 2012 at 11:49 am
Re: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 27, 2012 at 12:45 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 27, 2012 at 1:10 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 27, 2012 at 2:08 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 27, 2012 at 3:20 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 27, 2012 at 7:22 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Napoléon - July 27, 2012 at 7:39 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 27, 2012 at 3:42 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 27, 2012 at 3:46 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Whateverist - July 28, 2012 at 12:46 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 27, 2012 at 11:43 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 27, 2012 at 7:51 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by jonb - July 27, 2012 at 8:58 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 28, 2012 at 1:09 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 28, 2012 at 4:54 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 28, 2012 at 9:11 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 29, 2012 at 12:34 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 29, 2012 at 12:53 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 29, 2012 at 1:34 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 29, 2012 at 1:55 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 29, 2012 at 2:23 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 29, 2012 at 2:30 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 29, 2012 at 2:36 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 29, 2012 at 2:38 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 29, 2012 at 2:52 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 29, 2012 at 3:01 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 29, 2012 at 3:23 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 29, 2012 at 3:34 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 29, 2012 at 5:13 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 29, 2012 at 8:47 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2012 at 2:47 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 31, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2012 at 4:37 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Brian37 - July 29, 2012 at 6:31 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 29, 2012 at 7:35 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Brian37 - July 29, 2012 at 5:11 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 29, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 29, 2012 at 6:10 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 29, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Re: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 29, 2012 at 6:25 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 29, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Re: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 29, 2012 at 7:14 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 29, 2012 at 7:19 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 29, 2012 at 11:40 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by jonb - July 29, 2012 at 9:04 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 29, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Re: RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2012 at 1:31 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 30, 2012 at 9:59 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2012 at 3:59 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 31, 2012 at 4:02 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2012 at 5:45 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 30, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Re: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2012 at 2:12 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Brian37 - July 31, 2012 at 7:06 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2012 at 8:33 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Whateverist - July 31, 2012 at 11:52 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2012 at 1:19 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 31, 2012 at 1:37 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 31, 2012 at 12:45 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 31, 2012 at 1:50 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2012 at 5:01 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 31, 2012 at 6:13 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2012 at 3:16 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by jonb - August 1, 2012 at 3:24 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Cinjin - August 1, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - August 1, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - August 1, 2012 at 2:06 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2012 at 2:40 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - August 1, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2012 at 3:47 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - August 1, 2012 at 4:07 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - July 31, 2012 at 8:10 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by jonb - July 31, 2012 at 8:38 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by jonb - August 1, 2012 at 12:41 pm
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - August 1, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Re: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by fr0d0 - August 2, 2012 at 1:44 am
RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion - by Reforged - August 2, 2012 at 3:32 pm

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