RE: Science Proves God
August 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm
(This post was last modified: August 1, 2012 at 2:38 pm by Tiberius.)
Let's do this one at a time.
(August 1, 2012 at 1:13 pm)Pahu Wrote: 1. The universe exists.Agreed.
Quote:2. The universe had a beginning.Well, it depends what you mean by "universe". If you mean the dimensions of space and time that we experience, then yes, those had a beginning. However, science points towards a singularity (a point containing no space or time) being the starting point of the universe as we know it. The singularity existed "before" the universe (and I put the word before in quotation marks because the singularity by definition is timeless; any use of time to describe the singularity is relative to the time experienced in our current universe).
Quote:3. Before the beginning of the universe, there was no universe.Sure, but that doesn't mean there wasn't anything. Like I've said, science suggests that "before" the universe there was a singularity, which didn't have a beginning since it is timeless.
Quote:4. Since there was no universe, there was nothing.See above.
Quote:5. Since the universe does exist, it came from nothing.See above...again.
Quote:6. Nothing comes from nothing by any natural cause.Add the words "that we know of" to the end of that sentence and it would be accurate. If you want to talk about science, don't use such absolutes. Since the above cannot be demonstrated as absolute truth, it is an assumption, nothing more.
Quote:7. Therefore the cause of the universe is supernatural.So your first conclusion is based entirely on one assumption being valid, and your assertion that the universe "came from nothing" (which science doesn't suggest). Both of which you need to prove before you can use them to support this argument.
Quote:8. Life exists.Agreed.
Quote:9. Life always comes from pre-existing life of the same kind (the Law of Biogenesis).Again, the assumptions start.
Quote:10. Life cannot come from nonliving matter by any natural cause.Again, append the words "that we know of" to the end. Otherwise, this is just assumption number 2.
Quote:11. Since life does exist, the cause of life is supernatural.Conclusion again supported only by assumptions which may be false. Prove your assumptions to be true and you'll have an argument.
