RE: Prayer?
August 5, 2012 at 6:46 pm
(This post was last modified: August 5, 2012 at 6:51 pm by Drich.)
(August 5, 2012 at 6:32 pm)Faith No More Wrote:Drich Wrote:So the reason it is a terriable analogy is because it does not lend itself to your line of thought and you can not turn it on me unless you change it?... Seriouly? For me, that makes it a good analogy.
No, dumbass. Your analogy fails, because it fails to take into account god's omnipotence and omniscience.
You might want to hold off laughing at people, because most of the time, the things that people say here go right over your head.
What fails is that you do not understand what 'tool' Is being discussed. The 'tool' or gun here is free will or the ablity to sin. God knew the evil that would come of our ablity to be outside of His expressed will and provided attonement for it (so it did take into account God's omnipotence even if you could not connect the dots on your own) We were given 'freewill' and we misused it. We took that tool and turned it on God to be outside of His expressed will, rather to be in it and under His protection. Protection (among other things) from things like cancer in our children.
So i ask again if the cure for cancer (even timmy's) came at the cost of 'free will' would you gladly give up your free will? will you give back your gun?
(August 5, 2012 at 6:45 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I too have no fear of death and I have already shared my account of the origins of that position in this forum. As for the rest, I would have liked nothing better than to engage you in a deep and sincere discussion about the metaphysical ramifications of being the winning sperm in the race for material existence, not to mention perceived manifestations of the human soul and concomitant responsibilities for having such bestowed upon us. Unfortunately, I do not appear to have the slightest clue as to what you are talking about.
Far be it from me to say god/stevie and appearently now stimbo, does not know about 'material existance.' i simply pointed out the change in your doctrine from what 'you' had orginally written in scripture, is not consistent with the mordern understing of 'material existance' that you seem to be wanting to push now.