RE: Obama care
August 7, 2012 at 3:33 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2012 at 3:45 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Just to be the dissenting voice here. Why wouldn't we expect a decrease in gun violence in countries which have stricter regulations placed on guns? Do we see a similar decrease in violent crimes et al, or have the thugs simply traded in their guns for knives and blunt objects? I was under the impression that the overall rate of violent crime in the US was similar to that of any developed country (barring homicide).
The tools of violent crime and the cause of violent crime don't have to be the same thing. I know, I know "guns make it easier"........but who here thinks that it's actually difficult to kill a human being...honestly? "You can just shoot someone from 50 feet away", well, ignoring that most violent crime (even involving firearms) happens at close proximity anyway "You could just as easily walk up and hit them in the head with a baseball bat". The level of security and prevention we have in this country for any crime, involving any weapon, is remarkably thin. There really isn't anything shielding people from this stuff, no matter what weapon the assailant chooses to leverage. I don't have an issue with felons, for example, not being allowed to purchase firearms. They demonstrated that they couldn't be trusted, clearly. I'm all for limiting access to concealed weapons -and I think that concealed weapons are a bad fucking idea overall, btw-, and you'd never hear me arguing against increased regulation on handguns. But personally, I'd like to be able to enjoy my hobby, a skill which I have spent considerable time developing (and a skill which I have never leveraged to commit a crime) in relative peace far removed from the watchful eye of the state. I haven't committed a (violent) crime involving a firearm, there is no reason to assume that I would commit such a crime, and so I fail to see why legislation regarding gun ownership would help prevent crime in my case in the first place. Seems a bit heavy handed to me, but I'm biased.
The tools of violent crime and the cause of violent crime don't have to be the same thing. I know, I know "guns make it easier"........but who here thinks that it's actually difficult to kill a human being...honestly? "You can just shoot someone from 50 feet away", well, ignoring that most violent crime (even involving firearms) happens at close proximity anyway "You could just as easily walk up and hit them in the head with a baseball bat". The level of security and prevention we have in this country for any crime, involving any weapon, is remarkably thin. There really isn't anything shielding people from this stuff, no matter what weapon the assailant chooses to leverage. I don't have an issue with felons, for example, not being allowed to purchase firearms. They demonstrated that they couldn't be trusted, clearly. I'm all for limiting access to concealed weapons -and I think that concealed weapons are a bad fucking idea overall, btw-, and you'd never hear me arguing against increased regulation on handguns. But personally, I'd like to be able to enjoy my hobby, a skill which I have spent considerable time developing (and a skill which I have never leveraged to commit a crime) in relative peace far removed from the watchful eye of the state. I haven't committed a (violent) crime involving a firearm, there is no reason to assume that I would commit such a crime, and so I fail to see why legislation regarding gun ownership would help prevent crime in my case in the first place. Seems a bit heavy handed to me, but I'm biased.
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