RE: What was the actual sacrifice that Jesus made?
August 14, 2012 at 5:36 pm
(This post was last modified: August 14, 2012 at 5:41 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 14, 2012 at 2:21 pm)spockrates Wrote: Could it be a figure of speech? A manual for the United States Navy speaks of sunrise and sunset, but you and I know that the sun does not rise nor set. Four corners of the earth might be a way of saying the whole earth. Figures of speech are common in the Bible, and Jesus was even fond of using them.
How do you determine what is supposed to be a figure of speech and what is not? Couldn't the whole "sin" bit be a figure of speech? How about god, couldn't god be a figure of speech? Couldn't any part of the narrative be a figure of speech (or none at all)? You do talk about parts of this narrative often as though they were literal, but since you've decided to cast the shadow of doubt over whether or not any given passage is literal, that would have vast implications wouldn't it?
One of my favorite examples, the lord stopping the sun in the sky...well, thats one hell of a miracle. The sun stopping bit not so much, because the sun wouldn't be what stopped, and the earth stopping still not so much, but all of the things that would happen to this rock if it did come to a sudden screeching halt - not happening-. Its a long litany of unconsidered miracles (which didn't sound off the wall to those who wrote it because they had no clue).
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That entire part of the narrative..that miracle of god...was just a figure of speech.
There are more...
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