Democracy ..... over-rated?

[cratehorus]

The argument is a bogus one in that case. If the 2008 election had been George Bush vs Obama, do you think Bush would have won?

Just because the argument that orginated the law is bogus does not mean changing it, will solve any problem

Whilst Sarah Palin's negative effect on the McCain campaign is clear, one of the other main reasons he lost is because people thought he was too much like Bush.

Yes, I think if the democratic candidiate was a white christian he might have won by 90+% but because he was black we liberals had to suck it up and just simply "settle" for the first african american president in the 300+ year history of the United States of AmeriKKKa............... (sigh)

My point being, one can only ride such events for so long.

No matter how bad FDR could be, he couldn't do any more damage than his opponent, I agree..... even if FDR was bad guy he would be held responsible for the events that occured ....good or bad..... either way FDR died before he finished his fourth term (a US record btw) and these laws were made by the state too make sure such a popular leader could never succeeed in OUR democracy again

Certainly, although it must be said that Hitler used very subtle tactics to bend people to his will. The power of the Nazi propaganda machine cannot be denied. A lot of Nazis were good people, and were simply caught up in the feeling of belonging to some group. If you have the time, read up on "The Third Wave" experiment, or watch the short film ("The Wave") about it. It demonstrates that even democratic societies can fall to fascism.

yes....lol..... we need the state to protect us against fascism

Hitler didn't not use "subtle" tactics, he used open, blatant, brainwashing....much like FOX news

I agree, again even though it's a little fatalistic, or karma-tastic for an atheist. I do believe no leader, can be a bad leader.

Could you expand on this?

No evil leader has existed, without some good leader showing up magically, to kill him, maybe this is the re-writing of history, or the monotheistic and/or eastern religon's sway of resolving political issues


..... but sometimes I think republican's should just win every election, and the 1% should just keep all the money to themselves, and money should be a luxury, that only the best of "us citizens" should be able too use.....

the revolt would be horrifying but it would be the best thing that could happen to the world.....oh yeah and kill the orphans HAAZAAA!!!!

I disagree completely. Changing voting system affects the vote dramatically, as does drawing the election boundaries using a fair method. Getting rid of the electoral college and using popular vote instead (in some AV format) would certainly change the outcome of elections. In the past, 3 presidential elections have occurred where the loser actually gained the popular vote. For a load of great videos on the subject, I suggest CGP Grey:

http://www.youtube.com/user/CGPGrey

It changes............. when the vote is 51% vs 49% it's stupid and it doesn't matter, why not spend time changing the way people vote instead of using tricks to get what your party wants?

Are you smarter than the right wing in your nation?