(October 9, 2012 at 10:11 pm)ronedee Wrote: I really have no problem with Atheists, unlike most of you that do with Christians. The problem I do have is with the "hate" conveyed by either side....which manifests itself in many ways.
IMO the thing most "good people" of any persuasion want is a moral compass that has been lost in our society. What was once Freedom and Liberty in one nation under God..........has become Freedom to do do whatever the f-k I want, when I want, where I want, and no one especially someone's god will take that away from me!
Translation? Chaos! Because "I" has taken the place of God!
Where do we...or worse yet, inner-city kids look in our present society for values, morals and a sense of fellowship? The movies? The internet? The family? The street corner? Really.... Is there anywhere to find it?
I'm wide open for answers, because I don't have them! The only thing I have is my Faith....and Hope that there is a place better than this rotten world we live in!
You say you have no problems with atheists immediately before implying that we have no morals. I don't think anyone here hates christians as a whole. Some may hate christianity itself, but unless someone personally proves themself to be a bad person I won't dislike them personally. You concluded with 'the only thing I have is my faith'. Does this mean that without your faith you would be immoral? Statistics strongly suggest that religiousity doesn't make people more moral; it may actually increase crime rates on the whole. We get values from ourselves. It isn't a 'do whatever you want' world. If you can't be a good person without the fear of hell or reward of heaven, or perhaps you actually think the bible provides a good moral framework, that doesn't mean I need any of those things to be a good person.
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
