Fuck This "Xtian Nation" Shit!

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You say you have no problems with atheists immediately before implying that we have no morals. I don't think anyone here hates christians as a whole. Some may hate christianity itself, but unless someone personally proves themself to be a bad person I won't dislike them personally. You concluded with 'the only thing I have is my faith'. Does this mean that without your faith you would be immoral? Statistics strongly suggest that religiousity doesn't make people more moral; it may actually increase crime rates on the whole. We get values from ourselves. It isn't a 'do whatever you want' world. If you can't be a good person without the fear of hell or reward of heaven, or perhaps you actually think the bible provides a good moral framework, that doesn't mean I need any of those things to be a good person.

I DON'T "IMPLY" ANYTHING! IF I WANT TO CALL YOU AN IDIOT I'LL DO IT STRAIGHT OUT!

DID YOU SEE H....how Darkstar played the "we dont need God to be good" card ronedee?

I never understood how atheists can really make that assertion.

People behave differently when they know (or think) they are being watched. The threat of punishment is a very real deterrent.
Moreover, the threat of punishment is societies way of publically ''directing traffic'' in relation to behaviour.

If immoral human behaviour is unaffected/uninfluenced by the knowledge that such behaviour may be or is being watched, why on earth
do we have plain-clothed (undercover) law enforcement personnel? Why bother using unmarked police cars? Why this?