(October 14, 2012 at 5:11 pm)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: All of these scriptures are taken from the Old Testament/Hebrew Bible. This was all completed some 400 years before Jesus was born. This is a widely accepted fact, in fact these were all translated from Hebrew into Greek in Alexandria roughly 150 years before Jesus' birth.
These writings, these predictions are SO specific that they leave no room for error.
No other religious literature has prophecies so distinct, so specific that have been fulfilled in the way that Christ has fulfilled the Hebrew Bible.
Christianity is not just another religion, Jesus is not just another prophet, the Bible is not just another book.
Here's a theory: What if the NT was infected with myth by the time that it was actually written, and the authors decided to bend the facts a little to 'fulfill' some prophecies. There were myths about George Washington even before he died, and Washigton never claimed to be divine.
Matthew 24:29-35 “Immediately after the distress of those days
“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’[b]
30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[e] is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
Here, Jesus pretty explicitly labels the end of days to occur soon, and that "this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened". The authors of the bible can 'fulfill' past predictions by bending current facts, but there is no way they can escape this one.
Drich Wrote:(October 13, 2012 at 1:53 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Sure, babies aren't perfect; no one is.Except one...
God is perfect and to be in his immediate presence in heaven you too would need to be blameless. Although like you said, no one is perfect. That is why God sent His Son to make atonement for the sins of those who would come to faith in Him.
...god is perfect because he is defined as such. You simply ignore his imperfections (such as condoning slavery) and say that it must be us who is wrong for thinking slavery is bad.
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.