RE: why there is a need to see in order to believe?
October 15, 2012 at 12:31 pm
(This post was last modified: October 15, 2012 at 12:41 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(October 12, 2012 at 7:40 pm)wkl6644 Wrote: Mister Agenda.
Human always get what they desire or need for justice weather in a form of fortune or misfortune They just don't realize it. It Isjustit is not happening at the time that they want It to happen. It comes mistiriously out of no where sometimes . I Don make believe It will happen in after life but logic sense kicks in to say It has to happen. Otherwise unpunished childkiller just rot like that in the grave just like a good human.
Try to do injustice to your physical thing. Like a car. Sooner or later It will. Break down that is justice. In summary It is cause and effect phenomena. It has to happen someday in lifetime or afterdeath
the time when your get lucky is a time when the creater or God rewards you for the good deeds.
Luck or the lack thereof seems to evenly distributed. Even the Bible notes that it rains on the just and the unjust alike. Now, to the extent that someone abuses their own body and relationships and integrity, they will pay the price for that. To the extent that they abuse others, they may or may not suffer retribution.
That justice HAS to happen in every case is what you're asserting. It's what you have to make a case supporting if you expect other people to believe you, which you have not done. In fact, since you've brought in the afterlife, you have a ready-made evasion for not being able to support that justice is always done in this life. Logic is not on your side, all you have is the feeling that it should be so.
Unfortunately, unpunished child-killers DO rot in their graves just like good people; or if not, we have no way of knowing it.
(October 12, 2012 at 9:25 pm)wkl6644 Wrote: Prerequisite for believing the unseen is logic. Imagine you are blind and can't see a thing. Would you believe a car can't stand on its own with 2 tires. So you would logic instead since u can't see . Then you draw a logical conclusion without even seeing. Since It makes sense you start believing it
I don't think the word 'logic' means what you think it means. The prerequisite for accepting the existence of something that can't be perceived with our natural senses is that it must have strong evidence in its favor.
(October 12, 2012 at 9:28 pm)Polaris Wrote:(October 12, 2012 at 6:12 am)Napoléon Wrote: There isn't. There's a need for evidence.
Kind of ironic since there are many atheists who make claims about religion for which there actually exists no evidence.....well evidence in the academic sense, which to be honest, is the only evidence that means a damn.
It would only be ironic if the 'many atheists' you're talking about post here. Care to cite?
I don't doubt some atheists say stupid things, that's the human condition, not the atheist one.
(October 12, 2012 at 10:43 pm)wkl6644 Wrote: teaearlgreyhot
You would not be able to seee since you wo.uld be so impressed or too scared then pass out. When you wake up you can't recall what he looks like and start to add your side of story here and there.
So you're saying God can't be seen and remembered even if he wants to be?
Like most Muslims (and other theists), your God can't do whatever would be inconvenient for your argument of the moment for him to do.
