(November 8, 2012 at 9:54 pm)Truth Matters Wrote:(November 8, 2012 at 9:44 pm)jonb Wrote: Where is the absolute physical beginning? That is not the big bang
Yes, it most certainly is the Big Bang model. Borde, Guth and Vilinken's Theorem (BGV - 2003) has nailed the coffin shut on the matter with Mathematical proof.
The singularity is not some object that exploded in space. There was no space. The singularity is a boundary point demarcation whereby all physical matter, space and time do not exist causally (not temporally) prior to planck time. Another (non-physical) dimension is most certainly in evidence. We can infer certain necessary non-physical attributes safely. Sure, it's not proof of a loving, caring God, but it's definitely evidence of something with the necessary attributes of God.
If there is a state before it is not an 'Absolute' beginning is it!
When you say 'necessary attributes of god', are you referring to the Swiss cheese theory?
