You know? I was going to ignore this, but WTH?!
Did you read it of a 2000 year old book?
What makes you trust that book?
Clearly, there are people who don't trust it. Have you ever considered these may be on to something?
Did you read it of a 2000 year old book?
You see where this is going?
Why do you compare a god to a parent?
Did you read it of a 2000 year old book?
This world managed to work quite well without humans for millions and millions of years. Humans came in and managed to stay alive without gods. In 1500, the europeans "discovered" Brazil. People were already settled there. They were natives... and, most notably, they were atheists. They had no concept of god. And yet, they survived and thrived until 1500CE! Still think people don't stand a chance on their own?
If it's anything like Drich's dream, it will be met with "it's just a dream".
If it's some cancer that went away after the doctor saying the person had a few months to live, it will be met with "that person falls on the tail of the distribution that doctors use to measure how long patients have to live, on average".
If you present a hallucination, it will be met with "psychotic episode".
etc...
Ultimately, they all derive from your indoctrination, even if it wasn't a standard active indoctrination.
Imagine, you had been born in a Hindu area of the globe. All your miracles would have an explanation stemming from Hindu mythology.
The same goes had you been indoctrinated in another religious view.
And, had you been born in a completely atheist upbringing, you'd see things skeptically as well.
Now tell me how wrong I am.
(November 14, 2012 at 1:46 am)ronedee Wrote: He already gave us the greatest gift of all! LIFE........and the opportunity to LIVE FOREVER!!How do you know that?
Did you read it of a 2000 year old book?
What makes you trust that book?
Clearly, there are people who don't trust it. Have you ever considered these may be on to something?
(November 14, 2012 at 1:46 am)ronedee Wrote: HERE'S A CLUE: all we need do is BELIEVE! Not only for 3 visits to church 20 years ago...but everyday, every way! We also need to have the trusting heart of a child.How do you know that?
Did you read it of a 2000 year old book?
You see where this is going?
(November 14, 2012 at 1:46 am)ronedee Wrote: What dad would hold anything back from his totally committed loving, trusting child? Or... in contrast: his cold, calculating, uncommitted, loathing, cursing offspring? Huh?!False comparison is.... FALSE!
Why do you compare a god to a parent?
Did you read it of a 2000 year old book?
(November 14, 2012 at 1:46 am)ronedee Wrote: It's time to take a look at our hardened hearts...because that is the real issue here. Without Love for God [and each other] we don't stand a chance...in this world, or any other!How do you know that?
This world managed to work quite well without humans for millions and millions of years. Humans came in and managed to stay alive without gods. In 1500, the europeans "discovered" Brazil. People were already settled there. They were natives... and, most notably, they were atheists. They had no concept of god. And yet, they survived and thrived until 1500CE! Still think people don't stand a chance on their own?
(November 14, 2012 at 1:46 am)ronedee Wrote: I would take the several hours necessary to tell you about all the miracles God has done for me and the loving people I know...if I thought it would be met with respect and belief! But sadly I know better.Any miracle description you provide will be met with skepticism.
If it's anything like Drich's dream, it will be met with "it's just a dream".
If it's some cancer that went away after the doctor saying the person had a few months to live, it will be met with "that person falls on the tail of the distribution that doctors use to measure how long patients have to live, on average".
If you present a hallucination, it will be met with "psychotic episode".
etc...
Ultimately, they all derive from your indoctrination, even if it wasn't a standard active indoctrination.
Imagine, you had been born in a Hindu area of the globe. All your miracles would have an explanation stemming from Hindu mythology.
The same goes had you been indoctrinated in another religious view.
And, had you been born in a completely atheist upbringing, you'd see things skeptically as well.
Now tell me how wrong I am.
