Thank you for your further explanation.
We actually do know that the world had a beginning, as Scripture tells us in Genesis 1 (God created the heavens and the earth...). And many scientific discoveries actually match up to the accounts in the Bible.
So your morals are completely relativistic and have no basis aside from yourself? ...which, by the way, doesn't fit with what you said about morals being formed by society. Also, I'm not sure you understand what I'm asking, because you keep going back to morals here, which are addressed later, when I'm talking about the value of human life. :-\
Awesome, I agree with you that we have free will. But if our free will isn't what determines all of our actions, shouldn't there be something that accounts for the rest?
If you can't think of any examples either way, what is your opinion based on?
True that all religions claim to be the single true one. But because all can't be right, doesn't mean that all are wrong. There should be one that is right. And the fact, alone, that there are so many denominations within Christianity could very well point to it being the truth. The discrepancies between denominations mostly boil down to the "unimportant" theological issues, while there remain some main points that are disagreed with by a few. Those minor things, aren't reason to throw out Christianity altogether.
Suffering, sin, and other terrible things like you've mentioned have an explanation, too. Just because God allows such things to happen, doesn't mean, at all, that he condones them or likes them. And some of that is due to punishment from such as sins.
(November 29, 2012 at 3:34 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: Well.I dont know if it had a beginning, because no one knows and the science of physics is currently trying to figure that out. - So I`ll wait for them.
And I dont think that the universe, with or without beginning has a cause.
We actually do know that the world had a beginning, as Scripture tells us in Genesis 1 (God created the heavens and the earth...). And many scientific discoveries actually match up to the accounts in the Bible.
Quote:Most of my "moral" decisions depend on the situation I am in.
I guess in philosophical terms, when it comes to "moral" philosophy,
I try to find a middle way between Emanual Kants Catigorical Imperative and John Stuart Mills Utilitarism.
So your morals are completely relativistic and have no basis aside from yourself? ...which, by the way, doesn't fit with what you said about morals being formed by society. Also, I'm not sure you understand what I'm asking, because you keep going back to morals here, which are addressed later, when I'm talking about the value of human life. :-\
Quote:No I do think there is free will. I just dont think it alwas determines our actions.
Awesome, I agree with you that we have free will. But if our free will isn't what determines all of our actions, shouldn't there be something that accounts for the rest?
Quote:Correct. I believe that the determination of moral values by a sociaty is a learning process - sociaty learns from mistakes.
Quote:I really cant think of anything.
If you can't think of any examples either way, what is your opinion based on?
Quote:The divides between all. Every single sect claims to be the single true one - therefor I concluded at a young age - non can be the right one.
"disgracefull" for example - whitnessing things as 9\11, the catholic child rape scandel, anders bering breviks massacre in norway and others.
Noticing how religion can be used to justify the worst attrocities or how criminals hide behind the mask of faith to get away with crimes.
Personal encounters with religious people were mostly positive.
True that all religions claim to be the single true one. But because all can't be right, doesn't mean that all are wrong. There should be one that is right. And the fact, alone, that there are so many denominations within Christianity could very well point to it being the truth. The discrepancies between denominations mostly boil down to the "unimportant" theological issues, while there remain some main points that are disagreed with by a few. Those minor things, aren't reason to throw out Christianity altogether.
Suffering, sin, and other terrible things like you've mentioned have an explanation, too. Just because God allows such things to happen, doesn't mean, at all, that he condones them or likes them. And some of that is due to punishment from such as sins.
