Why did God do Satan’s bidding?

[Greatest I am]

The bible does show his giving Satan the power to deceive the whole world. Strange that that power failed with Job. So much for God's power.

Where and, more importantly, when?

Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

You are right that Job came out ok in the end but does that justify God or Satan killing all those others who definitely did not come out ok?

How do you know that those killed did not come out OK? Heaven is definitely OK. How do you know Job's children did not end up there?

I cannot know they did not and you cannot know they did. The odds are on my side as your God indicates that the many take the wide road to hell while the few take the narrow road to heaven.

We do know for sure though that to be killed is not Ok.

You say that God controlled Satan yet this shows the reverse.
"although thou didst move Me against him, to destroy him without cause."

I can try to incite you to do something. It's still your choice to do it. If you do, that doesn't indicate I controlled you.

You offering the choice means I might not have thought of it on my own but you do have a small point but that just means that God decided to punish a man without cause on his own. I gladly give you that, immoral of God, point.

Do you think it moral to kill or punish someone without cause?

Job did: "The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away;
Blessed be the name of the Lord.”

So you think it moral to yake back what you give someone.

Xmas must be some fun at you house friend. Yuk.





Regards
DL

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Here's a question. What's a right, and what does it mean for God to have one? Is a god with rights different from a god without rights. Where did he get them?

Second, I think you're subsuming the right of ownership in this act of creation. I may create a child, and for a time, my rights do resemble property rights, but as soon as that child gains sufficient autonomy in one or more areas, those pseudo-property rights start falling away. Are we God's property then, just as the negroe slaves were the property of European and American slave owners? Is that your relationship to God, do you consider yourself both property and essentially God's slave.

(For what it's worth, I theorize that rights are created by men; the notion of a natural right is an oxymoron to me. But I don't want to derail this away from your views. I simply point this out, a, in the interest of disclosure, and in hindsight, b, the concept of a "right" natural or otherwise, isn't a natural kind; we can't go out into the forest and harvest some rights; rights exist as a concept, deeply embedded in a web of values and philosophy. Where did you get the values and philosophical bulwark that defines rights in such a way that we can infer that God has them? If you say, "from God," then your argument becomes circular and essentially vacuous. Who defines what a right is, how is it defined, what is a right, and are they objective?)

Not badly put.

If I may, I would like to add that with the attainment of rights and freedoms comes the responsibility of insuring that all share those same rights and freedoms. We are to help each other keep those rights and freedoms or we all stand to lose then at the hands of those, like God in this case, or anyone with more power in the real world, who would just claw them back or deny them.

Regards
DL

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How do you know that those killed did not come out OK?

You ARE a fucking riot.

PLEASE someone nominate this quote for the "Dumbest Things Christians Have Said 2012 Awards"

I implore you AF staff.

There are other good candidates.





Regards
DL