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Destroying "atheism", God(The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) is a Fact
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RE: Destroying "atheism", God(The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) is a Fact
(December 30, 2012 at 1:49 am)SavedByChrist94 Wrote: The Bible(40 Different witnesses, Approx. 60 Accounts, no Contradiction, No error, Scientific Foreknowledge, Historical Foreknowledge, Scientific Accuracy, Historical Accuracy, which means whether you like it or not, these witnesses and their accounts are valid for testing in Court of Law, and as proven All Accounts are Accurate and True.)
Oh how wrong you are. There are several contradictions in the bible (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/j...tions.html) especially in the nature of the abrahamic god. I haven't seen any examples of historical/scientific foreknowledge, so please provide some (no matter how dubious, I want to see what you think counts as foreknowledge). Also, they were occasionally scientifically accurate, but about stuff that was already known at the time. As for historical accuracy, well there's the Pilate/Quirinius date mix up for a start (which would be pretty easy to fact check if the bible was written by witnesses as you claim).
Quote:Jesus Christ Resurrection is The Only Explanation of the Facts, All other theories have been disproven and rendered Impossible, leaving only One possiblity(Resurrection) which means He really Resurrected from the dead.
There has been nothing to prove that we are dealing with facts when we talk about the bible, so this bit is null and void.

Quote:The Shroud, no evidence of forgery, not a painting, has blood, x-ray like image, cannot be reproduced with any technology past or present therefore not man made/forged and is supernatural, caused by a burst of UV light from the body, crucified person who resembles Historical Jesus Christ to a tee.
It was also carbon-dated and found not to be from the time when christ was supposedly born. I also doubt it has any of the qualities given to it by you, but I can't be bothered to go and find things that say otherwise.
Quote:Already with this Jesus Christ is The Lord/God and God(The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit)

First Uncaused Cause(Scientific and Philosophical Fact, in otherwords overall Fact and if you deny this you must deny "macro-evolution" as this actually is a Proven Fact.)
Wishful thinking. There has been no uncaused cause proven, and by most accounts this teleological argument for god is deemed to stand on scientifically incorrect ground. There have been several threads on this topic in these forums, go find them.

Quote:An Infinite Past of Anything in Succession(Matter, Time, Space, Energy, Change, cause & effect etc) is a Impossibility. if the past was infinite we would never get to the present, count down from Infinity to zero. therefore anything in succession must have a beginning in the finite past. which means it is an indeniable Fact that once nothing existed.(evident by this and the big bang)
No one (apart from theists) have claimed the universe has or doesn't have a beginning. Current scientific knowledge says that the expansion of the universe has a beginning, but we know nothing about whether the universe had a cause. This is no reason to give it a cause i.e say goddidit because there is such a thing as common logic.




So for some reason, you believe that it's horribly illogical for the universe not to have a cause, but if god doesn't, it's perfectly fine? I see glaringly obvious logical no-nos here.

As for atheism needing proof; the most common form of atheism (the position of most atheists on these forums) is agnostic atheism, which means they do not believe in the existence of god, but do not claim any knowledge about the existence of god. This position makes no claims, so requires no proof. Again, you need to look into this thing called logic.
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. - J.R.R Tolkien
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RE: Destroying - by GurrenLagann - December 30, 2012 at 3:09 am
RE: Destroying "atheism", God(The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) is a Fact - by Tobie - December 30, 2012 at 6:36 am

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