RE: Destroying "atheism", God(The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) is a Fact
January 3, 2013 at 10:15 am
(This post was last modified: January 3, 2013 at 10:17 am by Whateverist.)
Quote:The Shroud, no evidence of forgery, not a painting, has blood, x-ray like image, cannot be reproduced with any technology past or present therefore not man made/forged and is supernatural, caused by a burst of UV light from the body, crucified person who resembles Historical Jesus Christ to a tee.
The shroud has been carbon dated and the date it was created was a long time after jesuses death, also what do you mean it resembles historical jesus christ to a tee? you mean it looks a bit like the dude from big lebowski, how do you know what jesus looks like?
You claim jesus had to have been resurected so i presume you are a christian yet you say God is
Quote:"Immaterial since Timeless and Changless, matter is ever changing, changeless material doesn't exist, and changeless material cannot cause anything, therefore Immaterial."
So how does a being that is immaterial manage to impregnate a virgin, part the red sea, help the jews slaughter their enemies, give moses a list of commandments, make a bush burn then talk and so on and so on.
Also if he is changeless then surely this assumes he isnt all powerful if he cant change. And since we are speaking of cause and effect, scientific terms, how can a immaterial being effect a material world,
Quote:"Whatever Begins to exists has a cause"
No one knows since we cant make any observations on things that are beginning to exist. Everything we see around us has been around for longer than humanity in one form or another.
We have only ever seen material things being formed from other material things so since you say god is immaterial that means god couldnt have been the cause.
Since you say god is changless god couldnt have changed this fact.
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Paulpablo, if you press "reply" on this entry, as if you were going to respond to it, it will copy the entire thing as a quote. Then you can see how I've grouped the parts which I think you're quoting by putting []'s around the word quote at the beginning of each quote and []'s again around /quote to mark the end of each quote.
This will make it easier for those of us reading your posts to follow who is saying what.
