RE: Another gun thread...
January 10, 2013 at 10:14 am
(This post was last modified: January 10, 2013 at 10:15 am by Napoléon.)
(January 10, 2013 at 4:51 am)JohnDG Wrote: -This country was not only founded upon the right to bare arms, but also is the reason we won it in the first place.
Explain how this is relevant today.
Quote:-As Americans we simply choose to excercise all of the rights we have to the fullest.
I'm not even sure of what you mean by this
Quote:-As americans we want to ensure that we will always and truely be free.
You are not free. You will never be free whilst you have a government. Get the fuck over it. Maybe my definition of freedom differs to yours but you are certainly not living in a free country like everyone loves to think.
Try not paying taxes. See how far your freedom gets you then.
Quote:Nobody is going to enslave us or take away our right to a free lifestyle. No thug can enslave us with fear. No government can enslave us physically or with unjust laws.
Because you have guns?
The mindset of someone who was living in George Washington's times.
Quote:-Our government is one of the people, by the people, for the people, and we will ensure it stays that way.
You're deluded.
Quote:-"When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." -Thomas Jefferson
A guy who lived two hundred years ago talking on a topic that is completely different now to what it was then.
Quote:-"To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them."
George Mason
Another guy who lived two hundred years ago talking on a topic that is completely different now to what it was then.
Quote:-"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance, They are the people's liberty's teeth."
President George Washington
Yet another guy who lived two hundred years ago talking on a topic that is completely different now to what it was then.
Quote:-Police cannot be everywhere at once, and it is up to us citizens to protect ourselves, our family and property.
Again, an outdated mindset IMHO. The sort of mindset that leads to vigilantism.
Get in the 21st century bro.
Quote:-Without the ability to project an equal force your chances of survival are limited.
I call bullshit.
Clarify a scenario and I'll tell you why.
Quote:-"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troop."
Noah Webster
What exactly do you think you're proving with this? Some guys opinion from hundreds of years ago? These aren't nuggets of wisdom you know.
Quote:-You must give up your freedom for security, but with freedom you maintain security yourself.
Idealistic bollocks.
Like I said, you ain't free, carry on deluding yourself that you are.
Quote:-"We are the first modern European nation to achieve complete gun control" - Adolph Hitler
A comparison with Hitler? Wow, didn't think I'd see you stoop so low John.
I'll respond to Tibs vid when I can be arsed.
