(March 7, 2013 at 4:12 pm)jstrodel Wrote: You guys are so high and mighty with your political platitudes and cultivated psuedo-feminist sensibilities, but if you you go a judge in America and you see a situation in which you get drunk and something happens with a girl and it is not really clear exactly what happened (rape, consensual, a screwed up situation), the judge will want to know what happened.
You guys are so self righteous and the way that you talk about these issues shows that you lack intellectual depth or discernment. It is like I am watching a television advertisement for a Democratic politician, telling me that if i don't vote for him I am not a feminist. That is where all of this comes from, and that is the level of it. It is propanganda.
You know when you are dealing with political propaganda when you ask someone to justify why it is that they feel some controversial issue is a universal absolute and, instead of justifying it they say "YOU ARE AN EVIL PERSON WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU CAN'T YOU SEE HOW BAD THIS IS". That is when you know that they really have nothing other than the propaganda they believe that has fooled their heart into thinking they have perceived the nature of existence. If you can perceive the nature of existence, share that, but when I see that people refuse to share that and instead utter empty words, my heart is sad because of their great and destructive ignorance.
I do consider myself to be a feminist, and care very deeply about woman. It is something that I have spent a good deal of time thinking about.
I wish there was a negative rep button here still, so I could use it on you so hard your fucking computer bursts into flames.
Quote:Cuts both ways. Why would any woman what to be an atheist?
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/d...ingle.html
Chad, when I clicked on your link it took me to nothing but an error page, but I think I can tell from the URL where it was supposed to lead. Are you seriously suggesting that youtube comments be held up as representative of the atheist community? Or that everyone who commented was actually an atheist? It's a pretty well known fact that theists troll atheist online presences too, you know.
But also, and I feel like I have to say this just to demonstrate the difference in the atheist vs theist approach to these issues, so what? Sexism is an issue no matter who is perpetrating it, and nobody here is arguing that atheism as a community is free from that, nor that it shouldn't be worked on. It should.
See that? I admitted there's a problem, and we move on from there. Contrast that with the religious response here, which has been to outright deny that there's a problem, even though the institutionalized misogyny there is so, so much worse and pervasive. I wonder why only one side of this issue is capable of any kind of intellectual honesty?
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