RE: Why would any woman want to be Christian?
March 9, 2013 at 1:33 am
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2013 at 1:40 am by jstrodel.)
(March 8, 2013 at 9:21 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(March 8, 2013 at 11:55 am)jstrodel Wrote: Good point. I think you see in atheist communities widespread acceptance of pornography. If you support pornography, you support women being pimped out. Period. The women who make pornography almost all use drugs and rely on selling their bodies to whoever will pay for their drug habit. They are enslaved to the sex trade, most of them want to get out of it.
Atheists are typically about the cause of feminism only in the context of criticizing religion, typically so they can partake in activities such as promiscuity that severely harm women, leaving them with unwed children and a choice to either kill their children or be slaves to an economic system.
If you'll excuse me, I'm not about to take advice on either sex or feminism from a guy who distinguishes rape into categories. Guys like that tend to, like, not know a damn thing about the issue, or any issue, pertaining to women.
You are like most liberals, brainwashed by political correctness, unable to see that even the legal system that you so delicately revere does not support your absurd views. Of course there are difference between different kinds of sexual activity. If you were charged with a crime because you went to a bar and had sex with a drunk women who wanted to leave, and you tried to get her to stay, and she later said that you raped her, would you distinguish between non-consensual and semi-consensual activity? Would a judge? Of course they would.
You like in a world that is based on pretty words and emotional responses. You don't know anything about the issue.
You think that political platitudes are the same as philosophy. You call it logic when you apply categories used in political propaganda to complex issues and match the words to see if they fit. You think that Christians are immoral when they reason from general principles and rely more on church authority, saying that they lack nuance and critical thinking. When Christians have a more nuanced perspective, then you say "YOU EVIL PERSON, THIS ISN'T A TIME TO REASON, RAPE IS JUST EVIL, PURE EVIL, YOU HATE WOMEN". Then you proceed to tell Christians that they are driven by emotionalism and that they lack a deeper sense of nuance to the issues that Christians feel the same way about.
I think there is something to the sort of general rejection of a category such as rape, that involves severe disgust and hatred for the category. It is good that you care about women. Why not be a little more charitable to Christians who do the same thing? But actually, if you look carefully, the way that atheists think and the way Christians think is not really that different. It is a dialectic between general concepts and specific concepts, between emotional responses to highly charged words and more intellectual responses to less emotionally charged words.
You are doing the exact same thing that Christians do. Of course, the answer is not whether one sound of word or one approach is correct, what matters is that in the end you have understood the issue. You don't understand anything about the issue of rape. You are probably one of those people who would self righteously say "It is not for men to decide anything about this, women always know best" and then turn around and criticize the Christian understanding, which is nuance, as it should be, as being immoral and lacking compassion for women.
Why not follow this up calling for Christians to be more nuanced about their application of sexual ethics? That would seal the deal and make you a true psuedo-philosopher and apostle of liberalism, par exellence.