Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: June 29, 2025, 2:25 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’
#12
RE: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’
Chopra - ugh. Thanks for pointing that one out.

Personally, I have, in the past done a null meditation, meaning, trying to imaging myself 1 second before death, and what that would feel like. I find it very mercurial, and as I would get close, the mind runs away. It's a fight with the mind to get to the point where it's end is resisted. Sometimes, I experience dread, and sometimes (and rarely) a quiet. But it is the one thing in the universe that everyone will have to experience in the end. The fact that we may fear it, resist it, or want an alternative (a friend of mine in the USA, some years ago paid to have his head frozen after death. Whenever I see that on Futurama, I always think of him! He still lives, BTW).

The fanciful idea of a supernatural place where everyone speaks English, has all of their limbs, their alzheimer's is cured, and they no longer need Viagra, is a nice fantasy. Or as Ned Flanders said when he went to Hell, "I spent all of that money on harp lessons for nothing!"

In Judaism, the older belief (one echoed by David in Psalm 6:5 "For in death there is no rememberance of you", or better yet, the anonymous author in Ecclesiates 9:5 where it says "For the dead know nothing at all"), is that at the end of it all, the switch is turned off, and you are nullified in a "well of souls" (shoel), so to speak, who know nothing.

The idea of the "resurrection of the dead" was a much later Rabbinical add on, which means, when it is all over, you will rise up into a new world and start all over. It wasn't a heaven, but "Hey, don't worry, when you die, it all goes black, but in what will seem like an instant later, that switch is turned back on and you get to start over.

Christianity comes and has their Heaven, and Judaism changes as well to compete, so by the 4th century CE the souls are always awake and aware, but they can't participate, and you have other places for them to hang out (Gan Eden), waiting for the ressurection at the end of days. And this belief in this new ending is that "One who declares that there is no resurrection of the dead, has no share in the world to come". And one who does not believe that the "world to come" is in the Torah is called an Apikoris. The religious people dare not speak against it, and believe in some hopeful metaphysical future.

In other words, the story goes from very bleak, to something hopeful. It evolves and changes, because the end is scary. And selling hope is much of what religion is all about. And if you cannot find it, then make it up. And as Stephen Frye would say:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i65d5oALHJ4
“I've done everything the Bible says — even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!"— Ned Flanders
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’ - by Phish - March 12, 2013 at 6:40 pm
RE: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’ - by Phish - March 13, 2013 at 2:21 am
RE: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’ - by EGross - March 13, 2013 at 6:47 am
RE: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’ - by Phish - March 13, 2013 at 8:00 am
RE: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’ - by Phish - March 13, 2013 at 8:39 am
RE: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’ - by Phish - March 13, 2013 at 3:51 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Star Trek theory Won2blv 10 2667 June 24, 2023 at 6:53 am
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist notimportant1234 75 13857 October 19, 2017 at 11:04 am
Last Post: Gawdzilla Sama
  Simulation Theory according to Dilbert Neo-Scholastic 110 21096 May 10, 2017 at 12:06 pm
Last Post: Edwardo Piet
  Intelligent Design as a scientific theory? SuperSentient 26 7796 March 26, 2017 at 11:07 pm
Last Post: SuperSentient
  Simulation Theory Documentary Neo-Scholastic 25 7028 August 30, 2016 at 3:45 pm
Last Post: Neo-Scholastic
  New theory on how life began KUSA 19 4756 March 3, 2016 at 6:33 pm
Last Post: Fireball
  Mythbusters: does God exist KUSA 10 2730 December 9, 2015 at 8:51 am
Last Post: Homeless Nutter
  New theory on Aboigenesis StuW 11 4551 February 26, 2015 at 4:11 pm
Last Post: Heywood
  "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the universe." IanHulett 18 8455 February 22, 2015 at 12:20 pm
Last Post: ReptilianPeon
  Can you give any evidence for Darwin's theory? Walker_Lee 51 12636 May 14, 2014 at 11:30 am
Last Post: Simon Moon



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)