3D gun printing

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Secondly, Law Enforcement is part of the government. The government both creates and enforces laws. Indeed, often it is illegal for private citizens to enforce the law.

Laws may be created and mostly inforced by the goverment or better put the goverment - yet the inforcement is not necesserely a goverment thing.

I'm not arguing that we should stop registering guns; never have. All I said was that there are already unregistered guns out there; the government knows nothing about them because they are unregistered. Printing guns would add to that problem, yes, but honest citizens would follow laws and register any guns that they made themselves. I also believe that you currently need a gun manufacturing license in order to print a gun anyway.

To rely on the supposed "honesty of citizens" is like hoping a fire stops burning rather than calling the fire brigade.
And how does one ensure that peopleactualy aquire a license first before printing guns, which can be done without anyone actualy taking notice?

Again, I never said we should ban the registration of firearms. Are you putting words in my mouth?

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And who will ensure that you registere them, without the people who do it screaming "opression"?

Nobody, but then, the point of registering them is to keep track of all the legally owned guns. The government doesn't know about the illegally owned guns; if they did, they would arrest those who had them.

I guess my point is, criminals don't care about laws in the first place. If you make printing guns illegal, the only people who will do it are criminals, so you don't solve any problem.

arent you just practicaly declaring registration useless?

I'm not using it as an excuse to deregulate laws. I'm using it as an excuse not to create further laws which serve no actual purpose.

And who has the authority to declare potential new laws useless before the subject under debate has even reached any kind of legal conclusions?

You?

It is not illegal to manufacture guns. Whilst that is true, there should be no restriction on the methods made to manufacture guns, as long as such methods comply with related legislation (i.e. work safety, etc.).

The manufacturing of guns without licence is illegal.

And that does not help to prevent mass production for criminals or others.

Printing guns might actually be a more efficient way of producing guns in the future. We should not restrict it; doing such would only impede progress.

Printing guns will damage the arms market by making it possible for backwards morons to print low qualety versions of high qualety copyrighted rifles which still have the capacity of fireing 800 rounds beore breaking.
The 3D printer has it`s future in printing other stuff such as surgic material for hospitals and little things for a home in private use like dishes, cups and bla bla.
3D printers are not yet capable of producing highly sufisticated materials which can function over a long period of time.
And if they should one day be capable to do so, they will be nothing but a goldmine for parasites who dont give a damn about copyright.

If you don't think the anti-gun crowd aren't talking about banning these methods of producing guns, you are having a laugh. Can I show you who is doing that? Yes, but next time, why not do a quick Google search?

http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-cetera...-20130220/
http://boingboing.net/2012/12/09/congres...-on-3.html

What has that to do with me?

I'm not thinking in extremes; I'm reacting to the action and calls for action already being taken. It makes no sense to ban a method of production; it makes lots of sense to require registration for printed guns, and for people who want to print them to have a gun manufacturing license.

I am not calling for the ban of 3D printing!!!

Who is putting words into whos mouth!

And since we are talking about something which can be done over the internet, people will by in large not give a fuck about registration.

And people who own a methlab, believe 72 virgins are waiting for them, scream white power or want to overthrow the goverment in any way, will certainly not give a shit about a licence!