The Case for Theism

[The Grand Nudger]

Apologetics or atheism? I know what they mean if we use the dictionary as a source but I have often noted atheists reserve the right to interpret the meaning of a word to suit themselves.

Either, to be frank.

It's your own arrogance that comes back to bite you in the ass. The fact you think it means something to me when you say I have failed to make a case is an example. You can't get the concept out of your head that I don't care what your opinion is and I expect you and your ilk not to be persuaded. Does it mean anything to you that in my opinion you've failed to make your case or failed to give me any reason to reject my belief and adopt yours? In my opinion my belief has more facts and data in support of it..but that doesn't mean anything to you does it? Do you think if two lawyers are trying a case that they only win the case if they persuade their opponent as to the merits of their case?

Again, calling someone arrogant won't make your case for you. Sounds to me like you're trawling for ways to excuse your inability. If you didn't care, you wouldn't be here posting - over and over- so spare me. You can believe in whatever you like, whether or not you've made a compelling case for theism, and whatever you choose to believe are entirely different subjects. Why would I need to convince you to believe in anything?

The other nuance about arrogance is the fact in the case of atheism...there's no basis to be arrogant. Its not like you have an overwhelming rock solid powerful case to be proud of, most of you won't even attempt to make a case, in your arrogance you seem to think that you can merely criticize (typically with theories the atheist himself doesn't believe in) the case in favor of theism and that alone will lead people to believe that our existence is due to mindless forces that blindly stumbled upon the incredibly complex formula to create the universe and something unlike itself, sentient life. Atheists are their own worst enemies in that regard.

Wha-wah-wah, mean arrogant atheist meanies. I;m starting to think that you don't know what theism means either......

This is a classic example of the arrogance and rhetoric in action. I'm sure it makes a splash among fellow atheists totally committed to your point of view but does it persaude anyone else?

It's a classic example of the burden of proof. Get to work.

In a civil case a mere preponderance of evidence is all that is required, but here's your arrogance rearing its ugly head again. How do you figure I have an uphill battle when the majority of people believe a Creator is responsible for our existence? It is an uphill battle among born again dyed in the wool atheists but for people not committed to either point of view the 5 facts I have laid out to make my case are (IMHO) persuasive. Certainly in contrast to the anemic case you make but in your arrogance you don't think you even need to make a case.

Appealing to the mob now, because I'm sure that's some indicator of accuracy. Just...wow. It's this sort of thing that leaves you in the position of having failed to make your case.

You just can't extract it from your mind that your opinion I have failed to make my case means nothing to me. Try to reverse polarity and realize it means nothing to you if I opine that you have failed to make (or even bother to present) a counter case. Then a light might go on in your brain that has been cauterized by atheist think.

No "counter case" is required. You really have no clue how this is done, why you haven't been able to do it, or why your posts are being criticized - after having it explained to you at length? I doubt that very much.

Look amigo, this is blisteringly simple........If you don't care, if you aren't interested in addressing objections - your are not having a conversion with anyone but yourself - it would be difficult to understand why you would require these forums for that. You could have locked yourself in a closet and accomplished as much as you have here.