(April 19, 2013 at 1:38 am)smax Wrote:(April 19, 2013 at 12:40 am)Godschild Wrote: No you're wrong, #1 is no more than your opinion, and it's not a good one, you're trying to tell people how they need to live, so I just ignored #1. You can no more prove God does not exist than I can prove dark matter.
Okay, we'll settle this matter once and for all, right here and right now:
You believe God exists and is actively interested in the human struggle.
I don't.
With that, we can now agree to terms that will settle this difference. You claim to have great confidence in your position that god is active and personal. I am equally confident that neither of those contentions are true.
So, I hereby issue an official challenge. If a personal god exists, and he's active and personal, let him prove your position on this matter by providing some kind of supernatural, yet undeniable proof of his existence and purpose to both you, me, and anyone who's reading this challenge. This proof should be something clearly verifiable, and something that all experiencing parties can discuss on this forum without encountering any significant inconsistencies.
Now we get to find out how strongly you really feel about your position. Because I'm all in. How about you? How's that faith holding up right about now?
Jesus said thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God, who are you that you believe you can demand something from the God of creation. You want proof of God then don't be so lazy and find it as scripture says possible. I'm not going to fall into this little selfish trap that has been tried here numerous times.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.