RE: Are you for or against the separation of church and state?
April 21, 2013 at 7:08 am
(This post was last modified: April 21, 2013 at 7:09 am by Tonus.)
(April 19, 2013 at 8:15 am)Godschild Wrote:(April 19, 2013 at 6:28 am)Tonus Wrote: It wouldn't have to be a demand, or a request for a parlor trick. Why couldn't it be a sincere prayer to god to demonstrate himself to all, and thus give many people hope and a path to salvation? Why would god consider that an attempt to tempt him, or a "trap???" Would it truly be selfish of you to ask god to reveal himself and provide a path to heaven for all who would believe?Scripture tells us this is against the will of God, knowing this I would not be able to pray for that, and since you do not believe you most certainly can not. God's laid out a plan from before time and he's not changing things up for your petty and selfish ways.
So it's "petty and selfish" to make a sincere plea to god to reveal himself, because it's against his will? And you don't see how transparent your claim is?
Doesn't it feel frustrating to realize that you have to make up so many excuses for why god won't reveal himself, to the extent of considering it petty and selfish to want it? You've made up a shy, miserable little god who won't show himself, and who resents so much as a request that he stand up for his believers and save the lives of billions. And then you try to convince yourself that he's 'good' and 'loving,' even though he created a "plan from before time" that won't save more than a relative handful of people that he condemned.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould