(April 21, 2013 at 6:02 pm)Ryantology Wrote: I just love the contradiction. It's a splendidly elegant demonstration of how fraudulent the Christian faith is. If everyone knows God exists because he reveals himself to everyone in a public display, that erases free will, but if YOU know God exists because he reveals himself to YOU through private revelation, this somehow allows you to retain free will. How does that even make sense? Thinking that you know something to be true will determine how you act on it (if it is important enough to determine your thoughts and behavior). How you come to that conclusion is not important (to you). Christians treat their truths the same way atheists treat actual truths. Neither has any more or less 'free will'.
It exposes the deliberately deceitful nature of the idea that "faith leads to knowledge", because it is obvious that, according to Godschild's apologetic dog shit, the method by which you find the 'truth' is much more important than actually knowing what the truth actually is. Belief in a faith like Christianity may be an honest mistake, but if you tell someone else that it is wrong to examine its claims critically (by, say, demanding that God show himself), then you are essentially a deliberate liar, because you're just as aware of the problem as we are but you have a vested interest in not allowing your version of the truth to be challenged.
The claim of FREE WILL is just another part of the contradiction - since the god is supposedly ALL KNOWING. "FREE" will implies the ability to actually choose from ALL available options. IF a god knows what we will "choose" before we exist - at the time WE have to make the choice - we do NOT have the freedom to choose something other than what that god already knows. WE cannot choose to change our minds and do something else - so our choice is not actually FREE
Worse - if a god were all knowing - then it can only do what it already knows it will do - and it cannot change its mind to do something else as well. So it does not have free will - ie - it cannot be almighty.
Given that there are Thousands of different xtian sects alone - means that a LOGICAL and INTELLIGENT person MUST be able to question which one is the correct one -since they all claim to be the ONE and ONLY. So - why not just have the god appear and identify which Xtian religion is the true religion - which would clearly give ALL humans the ONLY path to redemption - since all the others are false.
Of course - they will still argue against that as well.
