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Poll: Are you for or against the separation of church and state?
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Are you for or against the separation of church and state?
RE: Are you for or against the separation of church and state?
(April 24, 2013 at 2:21 am)Esquilax Wrote:
(April 23, 2013 at 11:22 pm)Ryantology Wrote: God made people who sin, therefore, God made sin. This is logic a first grade child can understand. If you claim that God is not responsible for sin, yet insist that sin is real, then sin comes from outside the universe God created, and it proves that he is neither unique nor all-powerful, and it is foolish to worship a god which cannot even claim supremacy over his own creation.

The other important thing to note about this line of reasoning is that, in this scenario, something (sin) can come from nothing (since in this case god created man in his own image and sin spontaneously popped into being there through no action on god's part.) This renders roughly all of the creationist claims about the origin of the universe nonsensical- as we'd have examples of something coming from nothing sans god within their own theology.

Which, ironically, would make the atheist outlook the only viable one for theists, given that it's the one with no examples of things coming into being without a cause... Thinking

Sin is the absence of love. It is one's choice to expel God from one's heart so that all that's left is basic self-promoting instinct. Some verses that support this:

1 John 3:4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.

1 John 3:14 We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love each other. Anyone who does not love remains in death.

1 John 3:17 If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person?

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

According to the Bible, evil is the rejection of good. So the above arguments do not apply to God as He is in the Bible.
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RE: Are you for or against the separation of church and state? - by Undeceived - April 24, 2013 at 3:36 am

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