RE: If Not Hell then what?
April 25, 2013 at 7:19 pm
(This post was last modified: April 25, 2013 at 7:20 pm by Ryantology.)
(April 25, 2013 at 11:56 am)Drich Wrote: I called this one already on page 6. In that in your own version of Righteousness you have found God guilt of being immoral and therefore find it completely immoral to serve a God that does not align himself with your morality.
Wouldn't you? I can only imagine you worship your god because you find his morals agreeable. The fact that you have to justify his righteousness suggests that you don't disagree with what God says about what is right and what is wrong.
Quote:My question then and now is, what makes your personal version of Righteousness the standard in which all is to be judged? In otherwords what power or authority is your morality based on? Pop culture? what of other pop cultures? what do you do when your pop morality contradicts another pop culture's morality? Who is right?
What makes my personal version of righteousness less valid than God's? As far as I can tell, your only answer to this is "it does not agree with God". This is arbitrary and meaningless. What makes his standard of righteousness right? As far as I can tell, it is because he has the power to destroy everything if he wanted. If I had God's destructive power and the Bible told you to worship me, you would, without question.
But, I do not claim to be the ultimate arbiter of righteousness, nor do I recognize as valid any being which makes such a claim. And there are a lot of them. Your god is one of many such claimants. None of them impress me.
Quote:Another question, If God is the God of the bible then how will you convince him or make Him understand that your self righteousness should superceed His?
Why should I care what he thinks of my righteousness? His opinion would mean nothing to me.
Quote:Hell is merely the alternitive to spending an eternity with a God you want nothing to do with.
It sounds as if you are describing a state no different from the oblivion most of us expect when we die. As this is a fact many of us have come to accept, why should we care to avert it? Especially when (in my case) the alternative is spending eternity with a being which would disgust me if he really existed? You're trying to sell me a product I really, really do not want. Why bother?
Quote:I was 'bounced' because i did not publically shun my wife for being an addict, and stand before the congergation and beg them to seperate her sins from my own. Without this declaration we were viewed as being equally guilty of the same sins, and appearently they did not want a herion addict in their church, let alone teaching.
Maybe they were absolutely right about you and you decided you did not like this. I have no doubt you will disagree and justify it with Bible verses. I have similarly little doubt that the leaders of the church which evicted you could do precisely the same thing. Which of you is right?