RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
May 10, 2013 at 10:17 pm
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2013 at 10:17 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
You went completely off the rails at 3, for a very simple reason-
No, there is no therefore - there is only "we don't know". For there to be a -therefore-, there must be something to follow from.
(May 8, 2013 at 8:43 pm)xdrgnh Wrote: 3. Therefore the universe which is made up of matter and space time cannot of created itself via the laws of physics alone because the laws of physics don't permit such self creation.You mean all those laws that arose as descriptions of how the universe behaves? Yeah, it would be mystifying as to why they would hold before the interactions they attempt to describe could have occurred. That's why we say "we don't know" or "there's no reason to assume that they hold".
Quote:4. Therefore the universe was created or a better term caused by something which is not composed of space time or matter.
No, there is no therefore - there is only "we don't know". For there to be a -therefore-, there must be something to follow from.
Quote:5. This thing that must be the cause of the universe existence which is not composed of matter or spacetime is commonly called G-d.At least one person commonly calls me god as well, and?
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