RE: How do you know God isn't dead?
May 16, 2013 at 9:19 pm
(This post was last modified: May 16, 2013 at 9:38 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 16, 2013 at 8:10 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Nope.I you don't know what your own cutoff for human would be, how do you expect to have this question answered?
Quote:So such examples and observations are not support for Common Descent? I am going to hold you to that now.Of course not. How would a simple observation of human skin color lead to the conclusion that all life on earth had a common ancestor Stat?
Quote:The timetable doesn’t add up. Humans are so genetically similar, even groups that you claimed have been separated for 140,000 years, there’s not enough time to generate the genetic differences we observe between other Primates and Humans in the allotted time frame, you’d need billions of years at that rate, and you do not have it.Are you intentionally trolling me as above or did you suffer a reading comprehension fail? 140,00 years -before- a group of human beings migrated to australia..they were already physically modern. They were already -us-. At least 10,000 years before that same group migrated human beings were fully behaviorally modern. They were already -us-. The timeframe for an LCA between us and our -nearest- primate relatives is estimated at about 5-7 million years. Billions of years between ourselves and our lca is a fanciful notion.
Quote:I didn't realize that you took issue to just about every corner of the physical sciences. I think that if this is the case, there's little possibility of me digging your way out of such a vast chasm of ignorance.
No this reality, you have not established the fact that the fossils on Earth are a history of death and burial over long periods of time, and yet your entire view of life’s history hinges on that single un-established premise. Establish it.
Quote:That’s assuming the proof; you have not demonstrated that Humans and Gorillas are both apes, and no simply calling them primates doesn’t prove anything.The designation of what is or is not an ape entails a little more than just calling any given animal an ape - otherwise we'd be calling zebras apes as well.
Quote:That’s only if homology is a result of a common ancestor, that’s something you have not established to be the case yet.Again, biology and physics (but I understand that you don't really believe in that sort of stuff).
Quote:No, it doesn't. Natural selection requires selective pressures.
Do you not understand how Evolution supposedly works? It requires selective pressures;
Quote:abilities are only preserved when selective pressures select against those organisms that do not have the ability.Who told you this? It's horrendously inaccurate. All that is required for any given trait or set of genes to be preserved is that the creature successfully replicates.
Quote: Humans would not evolve the cognitive ability to be rational and to do analysis such as calculus thousands of years before the selective pressure required them to do so.See above.
Quote:More convenient, the existence of God has far more useful and valuable implications than Common Descent.Yeah, book sales, donations, tax breaks. Whereas common descent isn't so much useful or valuable as it is, well, existent and in evidence.
Quote:Such as?Observed instances of evolution, demonstrated mechanisms of evolution, and successful predictions made by the theory.
Quote:Well, someone may certainly come along someday and demonstrate that modern synthesis is in error. Hasn't happened yet, and that someone is unlikely to be you...... but if you really buckled down and did some science you could always hold out on hope.
A theory is only as strong as its weakest hypothesis, and Darwinian Evolution has some embarrassingly weak hypotheses.
Quote:Well since you already conceded that phenotypical changes in populations over time are not support for Common Descent, what other observations are you making to support the theory of Common Descent?Common biochemistry and code, selectively neutral similarities and phylogenetic trees based on rDNA. All converging - with nary a single point of conflicting data - upon the conclusion of common descent.
Quote:You’re not familiar with the current Creation model? That’s not surprising.It's difficult to familiarize yourself with the fantasies of another.
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