Re: RE: Two excellent reasons to OPPOSE gay marriage in the UK
May 17, 2013 at 8:26 pm
(This post was last modified: May 17, 2013 at 8:30 pm by NoraBrimstone.)
(May 17, 2013 at 7:27 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: 1. Gay marriage opens the door to a plethora of new definitions of how "marriage" is defined, a door which the majority of people,especially in the UK, would like to see shut. Consenting adults in a loving relationship is NOT a good enough reason to re-define marriage.It would open the door to a plethora of new definitions? Really? No. It will just mean same sex couples have the same rights as straight couples. The majority of people in he UK support equal marriage, so where you state otherwise is a fucking lie. Most people aren't bigots, funnily enough. Marriage has been redefined to buggery already. Don't believe me? Try approaching the father of a woman you like the look of and ask if he'd like to trade her for livestock and see what happens. Change is good.
(May 17, 2013 at 7:27 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: Additionally, as the economist here says, the case for polygamy is on exactly the same grounds as gay marriage, which is currently prohibited.OMG! Next people will be able to marry the dead!!!!! ...No. There is nothing about polygamous marriages in the equal marriage bill. That's not what its about. It's about not discriminating against people based on their sexuality to the point where they are denied basic rights. Not that a polygamous relationship is any more "grotesque" than one with two people.
So re-defining marriage to cater for the wishes of two loving consenting adults means that current UK legislation would have to have a complete overhaul and turn into one that is abhorrent and allows grotesque relationships to form, it is imperative keep this door firmly shut
For the record, I'd fully support polygamous marriage, as long as the technical issues (like who gets to make the decision if one person is on life support and the spouses can't agree on whether or not to switch it off) are ironed out.
(May 17, 2013 at 7:27 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: 2. Gay marriage legislation will lead to religious oppression and a rejection of religious freedom.*sigh* No it won't.
(May 17, 2013 at 7:27 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: Despite the UK government's attempt at protecting freedom of religion, the rejection of blessing a gay couple is likely to breach equality laws in the future in my opinion. There is no such thing as political safe guards or a "quadruple lock", this is something that can be overturned at any future parliamentary vote. The gay lobby will not stop pushing to impose its will upon religious institutions.There is absolutely no reason to think this. Churches have the right to refuse to marry ANY couple. How often do you hear of Churches being forced to marry couples when one or both parties have been married and divorced in the past? There are many Churches that already offer blessings for same sex couples, they'll happily carry out same-sex marriages when they finally pass.
(May 17, 2013 at 7:27 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: It is not equality that is being sought, it's uniformity, and it must be opposed.Actually, it is equality that is being sought. You're being a paranoid fucking moron. Why should being straight give you special rights? Why are you shitting yourself over gay couples being officially considered human beings in Britain? What the fuck has anyone else's relationship have to do with you? Nobody is going to force people to marry a person of the same sex, and nobody is going to prevent people from marrying people of the opposite sex. You're ridiculous.
(May 17, 2013 at 7:27 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: If you live in the UK, here's a petition protecting the definition of marriage.Or, if you're not a complete bigoted cunt, you can sign this one instead.
(May 17, 2013 at 7:47 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: No wonder the petition against gay marriage has 10 times more signatories than the petition for gay marriage.Aaaactually.... The use of bots early on in the petition are responsible fot that. It was even brought up on a fantastic edition of Newsnight. :D