RE: Pope Francis defends atheists
June 4, 2013 at 5:09 am
(This post was last modified: June 4, 2013 at 5:11 am by pocaracas.)
BettyG, since you're new here, I'll lay down the reasons which lead me away from any faith.
1. There are several religions
2. Religions do not share gods... although some of those gods seem to have a common predecessor.
3. Any religion has origins in a very specific location, at a very specific time... often in a very small group of people. Sounds like a brewery of fiction.
4. I'd expect a god worthy of that title to present itself to everyone in a similar fashion.. instead, we get different groups of people with different sets of gods... a sign that someone in that group of people made it up... and spread the word. If you want to counter this with god showing up to different people in accordance with their local specifics, then you're full of it, because this god of yours would be just plain stupid to do that, for it would have (and has) resulted in inter-religious conflict.
5. All religions claim a few miracles that happened in the past and about that small group of people that made it up in the first place... Sounds like something made up with the sole intention of providing "proof" for the gullible.
6. All accounts of human-god interaction are remarkably similar to what is reported by present-day people who require psychological attention.
7. Religion evolution.... first we got animism and shamanism, then polytheism, then monotheism. If there was (an) actual god(s) that actually showed itself(themselves) to the people, then it(they) must have done so to those first shamans... so they would have to be ones who got it right... Everything else is just quackery.
There must be more points, but I can't remember more right now... those are enough
Now your present day miracles...
Miracles of treatments of misdiagnosed illnesses are just dumb. -..-'
I want proper miracles and no discrimination: all amputees get their limbs regrown overnight! That would be a proper miracle.
1. There are several religions
2. Religions do not share gods... although some of those gods seem to have a common predecessor.
3. Any religion has origins in a very specific location, at a very specific time... often in a very small group of people. Sounds like a brewery of fiction.
4. I'd expect a god worthy of that title to present itself to everyone in a similar fashion.. instead, we get different groups of people with different sets of gods... a sign that someone in that group of people made it up... and spread the word. If you want to counter this with god showing up to different people in accordance with their local specifics, then you're full of it, because this god of yours would be just plain stupid to do that, for it would have (and has) resulted in inter-religious conflict.
5. All religions claim a few miracles that happened in the past and about that small group of people that made it up in the first place... Sounds like something made up with the sole intention of providing "proof" for the gullible.
6. All accounts of human-god interaction are remarkably similar to what is reported by present-day people who require psychological attention.
7. Religion evolution.... first we got animism and shamanism, then polytheism, then monotheism. If there was (an) actual god(s) that actually showed itself(themselves) to the people, then it(they) must have done so to those first shamans... so they would have to be ones who got it right... Everything else is just quackery.
There must be more points, but I can't remember more right now... those are enough
Now your present day miracles...
Miracles of treatments of misdiagnosed illnesses are just dumb. -..-'
I want proper miracles and no discrimination: all amputees get their limbs regrown overnight! That would be a proper miracle.
