RE: One question for Christians
June 28, 2013 at 10:43 pm
(This post was last modified: June 28, 2013 at 11:04 pm by Godscreated.)
(June 28, 2013 at 7:49 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote:(June 27, 2013 at 10:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: I can satisfactorily answer the question to those who want to learn, but to those who are looking to ridicule all the answers in the world would not satisfy you.
Try me.
Tell me what reason there possibly can be that a blood sacrifice would be needed to appease god.
You've proven you would rather ridicule, wanting to learn something from Christians is not part of your diet.
(June 28, 2013 at 8:19 am)Tonus Wrote:(June 27, 2013 at 5:53 pm)Godschild Wrote: Post like the four above this one is what derails an OP, people parroting the same ol' tired things, why can't you go to scripture and try to disprove what Christians believe.
I don't know if all Christian denominations agree on the finer points of topics like the ransom sacrifice. As I recall, the reasoning of Jehovah's Witnesses was that when Adam & Eve sinned, humanity lost perfection. Jesus sacrificed a perfect human life so as to have a marker with god; since he had done nothing to deserve death, he was owed a perfect human life now. He offers that marker on behalf of anyone who places faith in him and in that sacrifice.
That explanation makes more sense if you believe (as the JWs do) that god and Jesus are two separate beings and not just different sides of the same being. I am assuming that other Christian denominations would believe something similar to the above but with enough differences to fit in with the idea that Jesus *is* god.
Jesus being God would not be a marker, could not be a marker actually. God the Father loves His Son so much that He gave Him all those that would believe in Christ and what He Did for all mankind. Christ did not die for our lost perfection He died for our continued imperfection ie. sin.
(June 28, 2013 at 9:15 am)tokutter Wrote:(June 27, 2013 at 10:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: I can satisfactorily answer the question to those who want to learn, but to those who are looking to ridicule all the answers in the world would not satisfy you.
Why are you on an atheist website???????
To become more knowledgeable of the Bible through what arises from nonbelievers, being seriously challenged by those outside of what I believe gives me new things to consider.
(June 28, 2013 at 12:39 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: Well, since the crucifixtion of Jesus never happened, I guess it doesn't matter how it supposedly helped the human race.
Your proof of that statement is?
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.