(December 27, 2009 at 7:04 am)fr0d0 Wrote:theVOID Wrote:Did Jesus rise from the dead or not?
If yes then BY WHICH STANDARD do you decide the validity of the supernatural claims? - I have asked you that question numerous times over the last few months and have not once received an answer.
Yes he did. But the physical proof of that event is irrelevant. The point of it is how it affects me and how I act on that. I believe it happened - I can't ever know.
We both know you don't know it's true, but do you have any sort of methodology that you can apply to the scriptures to differentiate the literal from the allegorical or do you just cherry pick based on your own authority?
Quote:So. The standard by which I decide the validity is separate from the historical event. It is primarily the logic rather than the historicity that motivates me to adopt the position of belief.
I was never talking about verifying their validity historically, i was asking if you have any way to differentiate between the literal and allegorical miracle claims. Why is the story of the resurrection of Jesus any more appropriate to believe than the story of the parting of the red sea, or the burning bush or the taking snake?
(December 26, 2009 at 9:51 pm)theVOID Wrote:(December 26, 2009 at 9:39 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Good point. But where in the bible does God say that he exists/ I am? He didn't write he book, he inspired it.
Your stupidity actually hurts my brain...
Existence is simply not nothing, therefore If he exists there is a God and if not then there is no god. If you claim that he doesn't exist then by definition you believe in nothing...
To quote Rabbit:
"My take would be that it is not possible to give sufficient meaning to the word "god" and the sentence "god exists". The term “god” does not refer to an actual concept, and therefore to posit such a statement supposing that it does and that this referent exists in reality as something is an untrue positive declaration."
So the bible's stupidity hurts your brain. I actually appreciate the honesty of it. It does not falsely identify God and for this reason you call it stupid.
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The statement God exists on it's own is meaningless - but i'm not taking in general, i am talking to you specifically, your god with the attributes you give him, which i already understand to a degree from reading your posts here over the last few months.
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