(July 1, 2013 at 12:05 pm)Drich Wrote: Could you forgive someone who raped you? What if they had raped you 3 times a day for 10 years? What if they raped 3 times a day for 30 years? What if they are still raping you, and will continue to do so for the rest of your life? Now what if the whole planet decided to do that? Now what if every man woman and child who ever lived or ever will live did that every day their whole lives? Could you just forgive everyone each time they did that for as long as they lived?Melodramatic much?
I just want to reassure you that I've never raped Jesus or anyone else. I've never even met Jesus, though I understand he's anxious to have a personal relationship with me. They say he'll tell me to depart from him for he never knew me, like it's my fault he never introduced himself or he's so damn shy.
Quote:When you compare apples to apples you will find your ablity to forgive is conditional, and very limited.True. I forgive those who apologize and seek to make amends.
I still don't have to murder my son over it or bleed on a cross to accomplish it.
Quote:I seriously doubt you can drive to work and not get angry if someone cut you off repeatedly, let alone truly forgive the sins of the whole world.I've never cut Jesus off once on the road. Neither do I spend a lot of time brooding over how messed up the world is. However, I do forgive my fellow humans, knowing we're doing the best we can for want of a personal god that could give us some simple directions.
Hey, I know, how about your god announce in a booming voice over the Middle-East to knock off all the killing in his name. Then he can send down the One True Holy Book of the One True Religion. Literally, it can float down in a column of light with unseen angels singing the Hallelujah Chorus. That one act alone would do much to solve the problems of this world. This would be much more productive than bleeding on a cross 2000 years ago.
Quote:I don't understand your question. Why would there be anything greater?What requires your god to perform this act of bleeding on a cross to try to make everything better?
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
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