(September 23, 2013 at 6:01 pm)Brakeman Wrote:Yet god did it time and again in the old and new Testament. Jesus did miracles out the wazoo as did his apostles. Other lesser miracles were attributed to his later followers.(September 23, 2013 at 10:42 am)Drich Wrote: Again a youtube trick would be a waist of time for anyone who does not already believe.
I said that you guys need to experience God for yourself, to witness it, and to question it and the circumstances. Which is provided/offered to you if you A/S/KDrich Wrote:If you see God again, it will be too late for you to do anything about it.
That is why He uses messengers.(September 23, 2013 at 10:44 am)John V Wrote: Personally I would rephrase their points as, Even if you did believe, you would still rebel, so god has no reason to do these things.
BUT NOW, god can't tip his hand because too many people might believe, or not believe as the theists here contend. Furthermore, if DRICH or JohnV, or Godschild really would drink a poison that I would bring to them, without ill affects, then I for one would drop to my knees and beg god for forgiveness of my ignorance. I would take time off from work and fly to whatever corner of the world they live in to watch them drink the corrosive liquid.
Guys, do I need to go to the lab and collect a mixture of horrible poisons? Shall we invite the others to come witness? {our atheist, human derived, subjective morals would look down on this act for hurting people too stupid to think for themselves, But there may be quite a few that would still be willing to watch.}I can't speak for any one else but maybe I don't want to see you in heaven that badly. That said, I can speak for God in this one instance, in that He appearently does not want to see you in Heaven that badly either. Fore you like everyone else has been commanded to Humble yourself before Him, and then allow Him to lift you up. He will not humble Himself before you and perform parlor tricks to 'earn' your belief. I am quite sure He will see you to Hell before God Humbles Himself before you to provide you with anything that has not been mentioned already in scripture.
Not that God couldn't I just don't know of a situation like yours where God did what you are asking.