Can't be bothered to wade through thread, so just addressing the OP: I've read most of the typical "apologies" out there for this in the past. None were all that convincing imo, but hey, I'm skeptical more times than not.
It would not be so bad if it was just the dates, but the genealogies don't match well either. Then there's some differences as to where J&M came from and where they went afterwards. It just looks like one of the writers had bad information, somewhat like some news sources in modern times who get the story wrong (and some make retractions).
That's my problem with the whole idea of depending on some set of ancient books to tell me the story of who a god is/was: we never get to ask questions of the writers when we need clarity. Its really no different than interpreting any other work to try to hypothesize on meanings. And yet Christians in particular want us to trust in this Jesus character and give him our lives over to him when all we have is incomplete and likely inaccurate stories about him? Weird way the god of the universe chose to communicate with us.
You'd think he would go on twitter or something. At least.
It would not be so bad if it was just the dates, but the genealogies don't match well either. Then there's some differences as to where J&M came from and where they went afterwards. It just looks like one of the writers had bad information, somewhat like some news sources in modern times who get the story wrong (and some make retractions).
That's my problem with the whole idea of depending on some set of ancient books to tell me the story of who a god is/was: we never get to ask questions of the writers when we need clarity. Its really no different than interpreting any other work to try to hypothesize on meanings. And yet Christians in particular want us to trust in this Jesus character and give him our lives over to him when all we have is incomplete and likely inaccurate stories about him? Weird way the god of the universe chose to communicate with us.
You'd think he would go on twitter or something. At least.