RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
September 24, 2013 at 9:04 am
(This post was last modified: September 24, 2013 at 9:11 am by Drich.)
(September 24, 2013 at 7:04 am)Brakeman Wrote: So demonstrating the "GLORY" of god that works within you in a fashion that jesus himself stated you could do is something you won't do because you don't love me enough?Nuuuupe.
Just because you identify codependency as 'love' does not mean I'm obligated to 'love' you back in the way you demand to be 'loved.' Neither is God.
Love/Agape is an absolute standard that does not bend or change to fit the mental disorder you identify as love. To show you 'Agape' as i am required I must simply show you the path/love God offers us. I have many times over this last year. In order for 'Agape' to progress you must be faithful to the Agape given to you in God's name. If you are not, then that is where Agape ends.
Quote:So the bible babble about him loving me is bullshit too.If you believe 'Agape/love' to be based in codependancy, then yes God does not 'love' you as you are trying to manipulate this word. God does not 'agape/love' everyone. The bible even says there are those in whom God hates. The doctrine of 'omni-benevolance' is a doctrine of man that actually goes against biblical evidences.
Quote:So Not only his respect, love, and forgiveness must be "EARNED", but his evidence for even existing must be earned too?Yes.
Forgiveness is very conditional, so is God's love. (John 3:16)
Quote:God knows that his stories don't jive and make rational sense, but he won't accept me and give me really good evidence because I haven't EARNED it. Okie Dokie then.. Dick god you have there!They don't jive' simply because you do not hold to all of the doctrinal teachings of God. You have built a picture of God on these 'doctrinal/non-biblical' teachings, and that God does not repersent the God of the bible. If you only looked at what the bible says about God and take that picture the bible creates then everything makes sense.
Drich Wrote:So because I live in 2013 and not in 32 AD I am punished as a rational skeptic in that I am not allowed to witness firsthand the evidence of a real god, despite god knowing that the nature of those that live around me is to lie and make up fanciful gods. Again, what a dick god you have..Look in mat 12 where Christ condemns the Pharisees for blaspheme of the Holy Spirit.
Look at the blaspheme closly. Did the Pharisees mention the Holy Spirit in any way? No, the saw the miricals of Christ and attributed the Works of the Holy Spirt to the Devil. How could they do this if they saw what Christ did?!?! if everything you claim is correct then they would be obligated to acknoweledge Jesus as God correct? Then why didn't they? Why did they look for anyother explaination other than acknoweledging Christ as God?
In short because they did not Humble themselves before God. They stood in thier own pride much like the way you do now. They looked for ways to explain away Christ, because they wanted to live a life without Him.
Quote:So the bible babble about him loving me is bullshit too.If you believe 'Agape/love' to be based in codependancy, then yes God does not 'love' you as you are trying to manipulate this word. God does not 'agape/love' everyone. The bible even says there are those in whom God hates. The doctrine of 'omni-benevolance' is a doctrine of man that actually goes against biblical evidences.
Quote:So Not only his respect, love, and forgiveness must be "EARNED", but his evidence for even existing must be earned too?Yes.
Forgiveness is very conditional, so is God's love. (John 3:16)
Quote:God knows that his stories don't jive and make rational sense, but he won't accept me and give me really good evidence because I haven't EARNED it. Okie Dokie then.. Dick god you have there!They don't jive' simply because you hold to all of the doctrinal teachings of God. You have built a picture of God on these 'doctrinal/non-biblical' teachings, and that God does not repersent the God of the bible. If you only looked at what the bible says about God and take that picture the bible creates then everything makes sense.
Drich Wrote:So because I live in 2013 and not in 32 AD I am punished as a rational skeptic in that I am not allowed to witness firsthand the evidence of a real god, despite god knowing that the nature of those that live around me is to lie and make up fanciful gods. Again, what a dick god you have..Look in mat 12 where Christ condemns the Pharisees for blaspheme of the Holy Spirit.
Look at the blaspheme closly. Did the Pharisees mention the Holy Spirit in any way? No, the saw the miricals of Christ and attributed the Works of the Holy Spirt to the Devil. How could they do this if they saw what Christ did?!?! After if everything you claim is correct then they would be obligated to acknoweledge Jesus as God correct? Then why didn't they? Why did they look for anyother explaination other than acknoweledging Christ as God?
In short because they did not Humble themselves before God. They stood in thier own pride much like the way you do now. They looked for ways to explain away Christ, because they wanted to live a life without Him.
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(September 24, 2013 at 7:13 am)Airyaman Wrote: Well, to be fair Brakeman, god really only showed up for a few handful of people at a time in remote locations even in the bible, so its not like he's into big crowds and getting around.
So.. Sermon on the mount, the fact that the bible says Jesus was followed by massive groups of people where ever he went, the feeding of the 5000 a couple of different times was what? 'small groups?'
